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‘Hidden’ Trump Voters Exist. But How Much Impact Will They Have?
The New York Times ^ | Aug. 16, 2020 | Jeremy W. Peters

Posted on 08/16/2020 7:56:45 AM PDT by Salman

Republicans insist that millions of Americans want to vote for Trump but won’t admit it. Polling experts tell a different story.

MOORESVILLE, N.C. — It wasn’t the most obvious spot for a flag that people usually buy to make a big statement. But there it was, peeking out from the inside wall of a garage, the white “Trump 2020” lettering just visible from the street in this suburban Charlotte neighborhood.

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Mr. Trump makes this argument often; on Saturday evening, he told reporters that “we have a silent majority the likes of which nobody has seen.” One of his pollsters, John McLaughlin, has even put a name to this supposed flaw in the data, predicting that the “hidden Trump voter” will prove the news media wrong.

But the idea that there are substantial numbers of Trump voters who will emerge from hiding on Election Day, large enough to sway the outcome, is not supported by the latest public opinion research — or by a proper understanding of what happened in past elections where the voter surveys were off, said pollsters who work for Republican and Democratic candidates.

This does not mean that Joe Biden’s lead, with the most recent national polls putting him ahead by as much as 10 points, won’t tighten. And public opinion experts say there is growing evidence that Americans across the spectrum have become more skittish about sharing their political preferences outside of a trusted group of like-minded people. But it would be a huge leap to conclude that the country’s tense political dynamics are causing people to lie to pollsters in large enough numbers to explain Mr. Trump’s poor standing.

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(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; nyt; polling; trump
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Front page no less, but it's an editorial don't you think?

NYT trying to comfort the true believers, but you can tell they are sweating.

Good slogan for blue staters: Just remember the ballot is secret.

1 posted on 08/16/2020 7:56:45 AM PDT by Salman
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To: Salman

The tsunami is coming NYT for a great Trump victory and may finish off what’s left of your tortuous and filthily newspaper.


2 posted on 08/16/2020 8:02:14 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Salman

I think the hedging is going to happen, when that does, it means they are coming back from the brink of total political suicide by starting a civil war. Probably by trying for the a reboot of the same impeachment boogaloo they did the last 3 1/2 years.

Just my 2 cents. They wont admit weakness, but will say that models were wrong again.

Keep your guns in good condition for election day though.


3 posted on 08/16/2020 8:02:47 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: Salman

The polling that finds that there are a very large number of hidden Trump voters is very accurate.


4 posted on 08/16/2020 8:02:59 AM PDT by Meatspace
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The same “polling experts” who said that Cankles had a 98% chance of winning?


5 posted on 08/16/2020 8:03:41 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (You are in far greater danger from authoritarian government than you are from a seasonal virus.)
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The closest they come to evidrnce is this - and they don’t even say what the undecided numbers are:

“If voters were indeed afraid of voicing their support for the president, Mr. Winston said, other numbers in the poll would reflect that, like seeing an uptick in the percentage of undecided voters rather than a rise in support for Mr. Biden.”


6 posted on 08/16/2020 8:04:43 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Meatspace

“The polling that finds that there are a very large number of hidden Trump voters is very accurate.”

Exactly what polling is that?


7 posted on 08/16/2020 8:05:45 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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Well, apparently there are only three (hidden Trumpsters) of them so..........


8 posted on 08/16/2020 8:05:53 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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Polls are worthless. What decent person will take an unsollicited call and discuss with a stranger their personal political opinions.


9 posted on 08/16/2020 8:06:36 AM PDT by allendale
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To: NobleFree

Must have been the poll that everyone answers honestly and truthfully. :-)


10 posted on 08/16/2020 8:07:19 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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If you wear a MAGA hat you get assaulted and your car keyed.

If you post support for Trump online the Left-wing fascists try to have you fired.

Tell yourself again that there aren’t millions of secret Trump supporters, Slimes.

It will make November 3rd that much harder for you to take. Maybe it will even push you to suicide. That would be a shame.


11 posted on 08/16/2020 8:08:00 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (You are in far greater danger from authoritarian government than you are from a seasonal virus.)
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Be worried Slimes. Be very worried.


12 posted on 08/16/2020 8:09:54 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: rktman

I don’t answer pollsters, because then I would never wish to answer about owning guns, which candidate I am supporting, etc.


13 posted on 08/16/2020 8:10:31 AM PDT by Morpheus2009 (If you want me to be afraid, then be consistent in your logic, standards, and your lies!)
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To: Salman

If everyone doesn’t vote than the answer is “none”.


14 posted on 08/16/2020 8:11:48 AM PDT by KC_Lion
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If anyone asks me I will say I am all in for SLOW-N-BLOW 2020.

Then the wife and I will crawl through fire to vote in person for Trump.


15 posted on 08/16/2020 8:12:12 AM PDT by shelterguy
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They came out in ‘16 and a hell of a lot more can’t wait to come out on Nov. 3. The Slimes is getting nervous.


16 posted on 08/16/2020 8:12:17 AM PDT by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE)
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Yep! They are sweating! They saw yesterday’s Trump’s boat parade enthusiasm across the nation and are very worried!! GOD IS GOOD!


17 posted on 08/16/2020 8:13:33 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“It will make November 3rd that much harder for you to take. Maybe it will even push you to suicide. That would be a shame.”

I disagree. It would be a good start of a movement !


18 posted on 08/16/2020 8:16:50 AM PDT by Senormechanico
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To: Salman

A UAW fellow I know proudly brags about casting his first vote ever for a Republican in 2016. (many local Chrysler workers did the same)

He’s now one of the Trumpiest guys I know and was recently talking of the Silent Majority carrying the day again


19 posted on 08/16/2020 8:18:16 AM PDT by digger48
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In today’s USA you lose your job for supporting Trump. There is no recourse, in spite of the fact that you are the victim of a crime.

I see only one bumper sticker and one Trump flag around here. But people who have a job aren’t going to reveal that they support the only man in politics who gets it, and who wants this country back the way it once was.


20 posted on 08/16/2020 8:19:43 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Voltaire: To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.)
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