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To: mplc51

It has been established her parents were foreign students on student visas when they met and married. According to Harris and others the parents were very involved in anti-war movement of the 60’s and 70’s and openly protested in Oakland. The non-citizenship of the parents is not issue, I would think, but rather the clause: “..and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, ..” For instance a child born to foreign born diplomats assigned to a US consulate would not be subject to US jurisdiction. Kamala was born to foreign born, non-citizen, college students. Would she subject to US jurisdiction or Jamaican jurisdiction? Jamaica’s constitution insists she belongs to Jamaica. Whose is she? That is for SCOTUS to determine. (

P.S. I am just an average old retired guy and this stuff is way over my head!!)


20 posted on 08/15/2020 1:32:01 PM PDT by elpadre
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To: elpadre

SCOTUS would likely punt on this issue and leave it up to CONgress to decide it.


31 posted on 08/15/2020 2:08:03 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Caveat Emperor)
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To: elpadre

It doesn’t matter and you know it. A new precedent has already been established with Obama and it seems clear that if you were born on this soil then you are a citizen. Nobody but a few FReepers say otherwise. For the last 12 years...


70 posted on 08/15/2020 3:00:34 PM PDT by JerseyDvl ("If you're going through hell, keep going.")
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To: elpadre
P.S. I am just an average old retired guy and this stuff is way over my head!!)

I'm old guy too, and the one asset that we have is a lot experience (if we can remember it.) Your post made me remember it. When I was kid it was simple. If you were fresh off the boat, you were not considered an American. If your parents were Jamaican, you were not considered American. If your parents were Indian (as in India), you were not considered American. Now that was just simple kid thinking, but you know what, there's was something to it. There was an inherent understanding of what it was to be American by us white kids. Having non-American parents puts anyone at a disadvantage of learning to be American. Their parents aren't American so their parents can't teach them to be American. Harris is the model of this. She IS anti-American. She IS a Marxist. She was raised by two foreigners. What more do you expect. I don't give a crap about birther stuff. I do give a crap about Marxists living in our Republic.

Call it discrimination if you want. But the important thing is Harris is anti-American and anti-capitalism. There is no way I am ever going to vote for a half-breed, foreigner female. She may be born here, but she'll always be a foreigner to me because she just isn't American.

94 posted on 08/15/2020 3:41:14 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." - George Orwell, 1984)
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