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WSJ Editorial: The Trump Referendum. (Trump is beating Trump)
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Posted on 06/26/2020 10:19:24 AM PDT by Bigtigermike

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To: nwrep; ConservativeMind
The article doesn't say that all the polls are now weighting by education level. In fact it says almost the opposite:

Given that failure to weight by education leads to very predictable problems, it’s unfortunate that so many outlets don’t do it.

121 posted on 06/26/2020 3:05:33 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: nwrep

You are a lying piece of trash.

The polls had Gullum and Nelson up by SEVEN in Florida.

https://poll.qu.edu/florida/release-detail?ReleaseID=2585

Every poll other than Trafalgar had Gillum ahead. Every poll other than Trafalgar and HarrisX had Nelson winning.

The polls had Braun winning by a large margin over Donnelly in Indiana. FoxNews had Braun up by Seven. Donnelly won by 5.9. That’s a 13 point miss.

The polls had McCaskell and Hawley in a dead heat. Hawley won by 6 points.

Those misses are so bad that no one should trust any of that polling again.

And you doubled down on your lies. You are Fake News.


122 posted on 06/26/2020 3:45:40 PM PDT by TexasGurl24
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To: higgmeister

Trump is currently lagging and will lose because he’s lost the ability from Covid19 to offset the media’s spin. Covid19 was a master strategy by the dems...shut down the economy, scare people into listening more to the media, and shut down Trump’s rallies. Since he had the Tulsa rally, why do you think all the upsurge in Covid19 is happening? It’s to rerun the previous play to freeze Trump out.


123 posted on 06/26/2020 3:47:53 PM PDT by damper99
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To: Lagmeister
"Getting mugged in a parking lot or getting my vehicle keyed... sorry. No can do."

Car cameras, body camera, cellphone, pepper spray, tiny, bright flashlight, training, concealed carry, self-defense insurance,... There's nothing to be afraid of, and scratches can be fixed easier than a nation taken over by communists.

124 posted on 06/26/2020 3:57:58 PM PDT by familyop ( "Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy".)
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To: Wayne07

It’s way early.


125 posted on 06/26/2020 4:02:46 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: damper99
Trump is currently lagging and will lose

damper99 is Nostrdamus now? If you post that it is possible for Trump to lose, that would be much less loony.

126 posted on 06/26/2020 4:03:29 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Trump was lagging in 2016 it has been just AWFUL these last 4 years with HELLARY as POTUS!! God I just can’t wait for her term to be over / s


127 posted on 06/26/2020 4:08:39 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: TexasGurl24

I thought about hitting the Report Abuse button to pull this article because it lied about the poll numbers but decided not to.


128 posted on 06/26/2020 4:10:55 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe.)
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To: lasereye; ConservativeMind

Correct, not all polls are, but some are. One needs to go look at the internals to separate out those factors. But the mere fact that this poll improvement is acknowledged will force the hand of the pollsters, at least as we get closer to the election. This is why I believe the polls this year will be more accurate.


129 posted on 06/26/2020 4:39:26 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: M. Thatcher
A little common sense is in order here, I would think.

1. It is obvious, with the riots and the virus, combined with all the mainstream media parroting the Dem line, that the President has taken a bit of a hit. I don't think it is as much as the most recent “polls” but a bit of one. One bit of anecdotal evidence is my talks with my closest friend from WVA. He is conservative and supports Trump. Yet, he felt, based on the Generals criticizing him for his walk to the church, that he was discouraged. He basically watches the hour long news and not much else. After I gave him some facts he understood. He was still going to vote for Trump though, even discouraged. What I am saying is that those who are not solid supporters and have probably been temporarily been sway away from the President.

2. But with that in mind, it is still a long way from the general election. While I don't think that Biden will suffer a complete collapse in the debates (thanks to the news people bending over back to go easy on him and their vicious nature toward the President) I think it will be telling and will move voters away from Biden. He will surely have a couple (or more) of gaffes that will have an effect. And the more the voters see Biden, the more they are going to not like him.

3. If the economy continues to recover and people continue to go back to work the general picture will continue to improve for the President.

4. This was going to be a polarizing election anyway. We are a polarized nation. It is possible that Trump will lose the popular vote again. Or, he may just eek out a plurality. If he does, he will win a big majority in the electoral college.

5. Back to the polls. They usually over sample Dems and under sample Reps. In every poll taken the voter intensity of GOP votes is through the roof, while the Dem voters are depressed. My friend, even discouraged, told me that he wouldn't miss voting for Trump for anything! He said it was a matter of life or death! Also, most are polling registered voters, not likely voters. That is why I do not believe that the President is behind 12% to Biden.

Should there be some reason to be concerned? Maybe, but certainly not panic. If elections were held in June we would have had a President Mondale, or a President Dukakis, or a President Hillary. All of these had a lead in June before the election.

130 posted on 06/26/2020 4:48:06 PM PDT by gbscott
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To: gbscott

A thoughtful comment (or list of comments). I think it’s way too early for an accurate prediction.


131 posted on 06/26/2020 4:59:50 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe.)
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To: damper99
Trump is currently lagging and will lose because he’s lost the ability from Covid19 to offset the media’s spin. Covid19 was a master strategy by the dems...shut down the economy, scare people into listening more to the media, and shut down Trump’s rallies. Since he had the Tulsa rally, why do you think all the upsurge in Covid19 is happening? It’s to rerun the previous play to freeze Trump out.

Old Scratch just loves doom and gloom naysayers.

Why do you think voters for President Trump cannot see through the evil tactics of the Leftists and GOP elites?   This isn't penny-ante poker.   This is real life reality and our future existence.

Or are you one of the GOP elites woh hide here peeking out from your fifth column, throwing an occasional grenade of dissension?

132 posted on 06/26/2020 5:07:08 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: DoodleDawg

Concentrate on economic growth and lowering unemployment, the only areas where Trump out-polls Biden and the areas most voters really care the most about to begin with.

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Yes! This will cure 90% of Trump’s problems. Pandering to the race-baiters and other Leftists is pointless. Show people that the economy is rapidly roaring back after the nightmare we’ve gone through these last few months, and I pray he can get re-elected.


133 posted on 06/26/2020 8:17:01 PM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: Meatspace

What? Trending in what way?


134 posted on 06/27/2020 5:42:31 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: nwrep

You must have your “Republics” confused? This is not the New Republic. Peddle that crap over there!


135 posted on 06/27/2020 3:46:30 PM PDT by dowcaet
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To: dowcaet

It is the eternal struggle: TNR vs FR.


136 posted on 06/27/2020 4:07:23 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: Bigtigermike

“How does President-elect sound? “

Like a pipe dream, with little doubt as to what’s in the pipe.


137 posted on 06/27/2020 4:17:29 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: nwrep

You’re delusional. Look an any headline and you can see the antiiTrump slant. Especially that b!tch Rebecca Ballhaus - a true trump hater who graces the front page weekly with her bile.

As far as the editorial board, really not much better. Please stop wetting yourself over these BS polls. As JB would say - c’mon man!


138 posted on 06/27/2020 8:51:06 PM PDT by pghoilman (Earth First. We'll drill the rest of the galaxy later.)
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To: LS

Nailed it LS.


139 posted on 06/27/2020 8:52:01 PM PDT by pghoilman (Earth First. We'll drill the rest of the galaxy later.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Well said AC. GOP inaction is the biggest disappointment for me. They still don’t believe in our President.


140 posted on 06/27/2020 8:56:22 PM PDT by pghoilman (Earth First. We'll drill the rest of the galaxy later.)
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