Drug Combo with Hydroxychloroquine Promising: NYU Study (With Zinc)

Spectrum News ^ | May 12 2020 | ALYSSA PAOLICELLI

[cba123]

NEW YORK - Researchers at NYU's Grossman School of Medicine found patients given the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine along with zinc sulphate and the antibiotic azithromycin were 44 percent less likely to die from the coronavirus.

"Certainly we have very limited options as far as what we have seen work for this infection so anything that may work is very exciting," said Dr. Joseph Rahimian, Infectious Disease Specialist at NYU Langone Health.

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[cba123]

I believe in the next week or two, we should start to get some real feedback on the first real testing.

[cba123]

https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2020/05/12/nyu-study-looks-at-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-azithromycin-combo-on-decreasing-covid-19-deaths

[wildcard_redneck]

I’ll file this under “things they could’ve figured out six weeks ago.”

[Gay State Conservative]

NYU = Serious credibility

[Secret Agent Man]

Things that WERE figured out sox weeks ago and before that.

[mylife]

You can now get a Shamwow with zinc!

Makes great masks!

[mylife]

Order 1 get 1 free, just pay separate handling and processing.

[MtnClimber]

Will more ‘RAT governors ban this treatment now? They need the lockdown.

[G Larry]

1 - How do we stop the State Governors and Hospitals from hoarding HCQ? (without ever actually dispensing it)

2 - How do we get pharmacies to actually fill a valid prescription? (Walgreens refuses to fill HCQ scrips for COVID-19)

[neodad]

I would say that that is statistically significant.....

[Right Wing Assault]

Where's the zinc?

NYU!

[Karl Spooner]

"More than 400 of them were also given 100 milligrams of zinc daily.

Researchers said the patients given zinc were one and a half times more likely to recover, decreasing their need for intensive care."

Lord only knows how many more would have been saved if they were given 220 milligrams of zinc like Dr. Zelenko did in his study.

[WildHighlander57]

Right Wing Assault wrote:

“Where’s the zinc?
NYU!”

It’s in the article.

[WildHighlander57]

CBA123,

Thanks for posting this!

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[WildHighlander57]

CBA123,

Thanks for posting this!

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[LucyT]

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Researchers at NYU's Grossman School of Medicine found patients given the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine along with zinc sulphate and the antibiotic azithromycin were44 percent less likely to die from the coronavirus.

"Certainly we have very limited options as far as what we have seen work for this infection so anything that may work is very exciting," said Dr. Joseph Rahimian, Infectious Disease Specialist at NYU Langone Health.

[saintgermaine]

One of the best kept secrets around is BHT short for butylated hydroxy toluene.

It has been around for the better part of thirty years, has been approved as a food additive by the FDA as safe for human consumption in small quantities and using common sense. Without going into all the details which would fill many pages some of the benefits are difficult to ignore even so pharmaceutical as well as the medical profession does their best to do so.

Some of the reasons are that that there is no money to be made by pharmaceutical companies as patents related to BHT ran out long time ago and in order to have it approved for medical application it would require an immeasurable amounts of human tests with expenditures in the millions of Dollars which most likely will never be recovered.

On the other hand many doctors may know about it but will refrain from suggesting it as recommending anything which is not approved by the FDA would leave them wide open to lawsuits, as it is pretty well known that one of the American dreams is, to fall on your neighbors property and then sue them for what ever they can get.

Over the years enough information about BHT has surfaced that if used in small quantities to achieve a particular result, such as from 100 mg to about 1g (one gram or 1000mg) and in most cases 250mg to 450mg may do a nice job for some of the things suggested, it may be less harmful than an equivalent amount of Aspirins. Again do your own research and use common sense which appears to be in short supply these days.

Even so, if you still apprehensive or hesitant use it only when one of those nasty viruses appears on the scene and use it as a prophylactic in a small quantity perhaps 200 mg and once the danger subside stop taking it. The catch is that in order to do its job BHT works better before you get sick, as BHT will NOT REPAIR ANY DAMAGE which may already have been done by an infectious disease such as the corona virus. Even so if taken afterwards BHT will still continue to disable lipid covered viruses, but to repair any damage already caused may require different medications.

So why to take BHT on the firs place? It has been long known that BHT will remove the lipid layer or cover from LIPID COVERED viruses and the coronavirus happens to be just such a virus and by doing so will prevent such a virus from attaching itself and do its dirty work.

The Principal Benefits of BHT

In order of importance, supplementing with BHT can help with:

Reduce and prevent viral infections such as herpes, thus terminating their outbreaks. Also BHT is effective against many different human and animal viruses including CMV (cytomegalovirus),9 pseudorabies,10 genital herpes,11HIV,12 and some strains of influenza.13 A few of the viruses that have a lipid envelope and may be treated by BHT include herpes simplex I, herpes simplex II, herpes zoster, CMV, West Nile virus, HIV virus, influenza virus, hepatitis B and C viruses, avian flu influenza virus and the SARS virus. However, BHT has not been clinically tested to treat these infections, and probably never will be as no money can be made from it.

The CORONAVIRUS is also a lipid covered virus and BHT affects the lipid covering and in turn prevents the virus from attaching itself and do its damage. Now keep in mind that very few things in life are perfect and this holds true for vaccines as well. So when everything comes down to being cut and dried, do you prefer risking being infected with a nasty virus with all kinds of unpredictable side effects or take a chance with some substance which overall has a very good safety record.

[catnipman]

here's the bogus study that says more people from the HCQ group died than the ones who did another biased "observational" study dressed up in incomprehensible statistical nonsense, but the bottom line is they cherry-picked their cases to prove a negative results ... first, they selected only 1,438 cases for the study out of a total of 7,914 cases second, after drawing a bunch of bogus conclusions, they state: This study has several limitations. First, in sampling first hospitalizations, possible readmissions to other facilities may not be captured. Second, mortality was limited to in-hospital death, and patients discharged were assumed to still be alive during the study period. Third, some potential confounders such as inflammatory markers associated with severity of COVID-19 in prior studies were not frequently measured and thus not available for modeling.18 Fourth, the rapidity with which patients entered the ICU and underwent mechanical ventilation, often concurrently with initiating hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, rendered these outcomes unsuitable for efficacy analyses. Fifth, adverse events were collected as having occurred at any point during hospitalization, potentially before drug initiation, although both medications were started on average within 1 day of admission; future studies should examine the onset of these events relative to drug timing. Sixth, it is likely that there is unmeasured residual confounding due to factors not included in the analysis. For the significant associations of hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin vs no drug with cardiac arrest and hydroxychloroquine alone vs azithromycin alone with cardiac arrest, the respective E-values for the lower bound of the OR’s CI of 1.31 and 1.81 suggest factors moderately associated with treatment and cardiac arrest could render these associations nonsignificant.22 Seventh, for the subsample of 211 patients receiving azithromycin alone, the HR point estimate for mortality was 0.56, but the confidence interval crossed 1.0. This suggests the possibility of a true protective association, but it may also represent unmeasured confounding; it may warrant additional study. Eighth, the confidence intervals for some of the findings are wide, reflecting limits in study power for some analyses. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2766117?guestAccessKey=81833699-7750-4082-8270-331dc4809144&utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=051120

[catnipman]

crap ... add ONE html tag and the whole thing turns to shite

let me try again

here's the bogus study that says more people from the HCQ group died than the ones who did another biased "observational" study dressed up in incomprehensible statistical nonsense, but the bottom line is they cherry-picked their cases to prove a negative results ...

first, they selected only 1,438 cases for the study out of a total of 7,914 cases

second, after drawing a bunch of bogus conclusions, they state:

"This study has several limitations.

First, in sampling first hospitalizations, possible readmissions to other facilities may not be captured.

Second, mortality was limited to in-hospital death, and patients discharged were assumed to still be alive during the study period.

Third, some potential confounders such as inflammatory markers associated with severity of COVID-19 in prior studies were not frequently measured and thus not available for modeling.18

Fourth, the rapidity with which patients entered the ICU and underwent mechanical ventilation, often concurrently with initiating hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, rendered these outcomes unsuitable for efficacy analyses.

Fifth, adverse events were collected as having occurred at any point during hospitalization, potentially before drug initiation, although both medications were started on average within 1 day of admission; future studies should examine the onset of these events relative to drug timing.

Sixth, it is likely that there is unmeasured residual confounding due to factors not included in the analysis. For the significant associations of hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin vs no drug with cardiac arrest and hydroxychloroquine alone vs azithromycin alone with cardiac arrest, the respective E-values for the lower bound of the OR’s CI of 1.31 and 1.81 suggest factors moderately associated with treatment and cardiac arrest could render these associations nonsignificant.22

Seventh, for the subsample of 211 patients receiving azithromycin alone, the HR point estimate for mortality was 0.56, but the confidence interval crossed 1.0. This suggests the possibility of a true protective association, but it may also represent unmeasured confounding; it may warrant additional study.

Eighth, the confidence intervals for some of the findings are wide, reflecting limits in study power for some analyses."

[catnipman]

and here's the link to the JAMA article:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2766117?guestAccessKey=81833699-7750-4082-8270-331dc4809144&utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=051120