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Was the Coronavirus Red China’s Pearl Harbor Attack?
The Stream ^ | April 17, 2020 | John Zmirak

Posted on 04/17/2020 1:59:23 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

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To: PIF
I don't think Zmirak's article asserted that the virus did not get out to the rest of China. It says the CCP tried to stop its spread (albeit unsuccessfully) by limiting travel from Wuhan throughout the rest of China, but did not limit travel from Wuhan to the whole rest of the world.

Looks like another accidental spill, so to spek: the virus "got out" again --- got out to the rest of China.

21 posted on 04/17/2020 2:24:16 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Reasonable inference from the evidence.)
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To: dfwgator
Maybe we should have just let the Japs have China.

If we had simply not screwed Japan at Versailles, we might have been able to convince them to stop at Manchuria, let the Chinese figure out their own problems, allied with Japan, France, and the British, and left Hitler and Stalin to pummel each other into oblivion. That would have been better for Europe, and better for Asia. But hindsight is always 20-20, and Wilson in 1919 was too concerned with his legacy (just like Obama 100 years later) to let something as simple as 5-5-3 get in the way of his wonderful (/s) treaty.

22 posted on 04/17/2020 2:25:22 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
But that was the Japanese! The Chinese were our allies!

Those were nationalist Chinese, not ChiComs. It would be the same as supporting Taiwan today.

23 posted on 04/17/2020 2:25:34 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: chajin

Indeed. That’s why I say that Woodrow Wilson did more damage to this country than any other President, and it’s not even close.


24 posted on 04/17/2020 2:26:37 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Still Thinking

We ended up helping Mao more than Chiang Kai-Shek.


25 posted on 04/17/2020 2:27:10 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Unfortunately true. My point was if you were comparing the sleeping partners, 1940 China is not the same as 2020 China.


26 posted on 04/17/2020 2:29:14 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: chajin

We were more concerned with the Japs getting the British and Dutch colonies in Asia, than China.


27 posted on 04/17/2020 2:31:03 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

It’s China’s Nanking Massacre of the world.


28 posted on 04/17/2020 2:42:08 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: StAntKnee

In reality,the USA should have warned China with a very thorough Nuke test like Japan got. In essence,the Chicoms nuked America already albeit zero physical damage and minimal death but the economic impact of NYC and other regions being economically vaporized and most of the population hiding from the fallout and radiation. They also “sunk” “unsinkable” Carriers and made a good portion of our military unemployable. The DNC is just loving it:”It’s so easy!”


29 posted on 04/17/2020 2:42:41 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
President Trump: "Our country is in the midst of a great national trial, unlike any we have ever faced before. [...] We’re at war with a deadly virus. Success in this fight will require the full absolute measure of our collective strength, love, and devotion. It’s very important. Each of us has the power through our own choices and actions to save American lives and rescue the most vulnerable among us"

Pearl Harbor American Military killed: More than 2,300 killed!

9/11 fatalities: 2,996!

34,614 Deaths in America from the novel coronavirus in the United States! (Fox News, 17 April 2020)


30 posted on 04/17/2020 2:53:47 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Are the ChiComs, their blatant ownership of America, fake news media/CNN, the real Deep Staters?)
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To: Grampa Dave

My prayer is that this will motivate people to avoid as much as possible purchasing Chinese mfg stuff.


31 posted on 04/17/2020 2:54:56 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Grampa Dave
34,614 Deaths in America from the novel coronavirus in the United States! (Fox News, 17 April 2020)

Add that to the number of Americans killed by Chinese troops in The Korean War.

32 posted on 04/17/2020 2:56:18 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

BIGGER BOOM


33 posted on 04/17/2020 2:58:53 PM PDT by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: nascarnation

That is an excellent goal!

I didn’t know that Smithfield Hams was/is owned by the ChiComs until yesterday. I just cancelled that from our grocery pickup order for tomorrow.


34 posted on 04/17/2020 2:58:56 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Are the ChiComs, their blatant ownership of America, fake news media/CNN, the real Deep Staters?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

No, not only no, but Hell no. This China Flu stuff is not a Pearl Harbor attack.

The planes smashing into the World Trade Towers & elsewhere never should have been compared to Pearl Harbor, but it was, at least in terms of the number of deaths. It was compared over and over to sell invading Afghanistan and Iraq in wars that had clear exit plans.

The Japanese Imperial Navy attacked Pearl Harbor with their air armada that was clearly marked as military aircraft of Japan. Shortly thereafter they attacked other Pacific Islands including the invasion of the Philippines.

Unless there are little ChiCom banners on each China virus, it’s not an attack that can be compared to Pearl Harbor.

Now if someone suggested this flu is some Deep State conspiracy, I might buy into it. Comparing this to Pearl Harbor would be a Deep State ploy, just like the trade towers, to wage more war.


35 posted on 04/17/2020 3:07:10 PM PDT by redfreedom
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To: dfwgator

War or conflict Date Total U.S. deaths
Combat
Korean War 1950–1953 33,686

Don’t know how of our troops were killed by ChiComs.


36 posted on 04/17/2020 3:18:59 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Are the ChiComs, their blatant ownership of America, fake news media/CNN, the real Deep Staters?)
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To: 1Old Pro

Nah...just Forgive all our debt...or...we just don’t pay it.


37 posted on 04/17/2020 3:24:47 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Anyone tired of the Chinese Fire Drill (tm) yet???)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

No. I don’t think they’d intentionally infect their own population. What I think is most interesting about this China thing though is that it appears to me that they’ve given up trying to eradicate it an are now just planning to ride thru it. Assuming that the death rate is 5%, they have 1.4 billion people so that means 70 million dead. But that will leave them with 1.393 billion people so they don’t care. It will get rid of the weaker population And purify the gene pool. That’s what they are thinking.


38 posted on 04/17/2020 3:30:23 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Pardon me for the tone. Being cooped up is getting to me, so bear with me. I have some issues with this.

Point number 1: "The first confirmed case is from November 17."

The original source: Coronavirus: China’s first confirmed Covid-19 case traced back to November 17

"...Some of the cases were likely backdated after health authorities had tested specimens taken from suspected patients.
"...Interviews with whistle-blowers from the medical community suggest Chinese doctors only realized they were dealing with a new disease in late December."
"...According to the government data seen by the Post, a 55 year-old from Hubei province could have been the first person to have contracted Covid-19 on November 17."

The original source did not claim Chinese authorities knew in November. So as the story gets passed around from its source, it changes. It is going from a "maybe in November" to "they knew in November".Chinese doctors realized there was a outbreak in December, and think it started in November. That is different than knowing it started in November.

Point number 2: Bias confirmation.

"Did you get that? Not only did the Chinese Communist regime know that the virus spread by contact, and lie about it. It shut down the infected province to travel inside China, but continued to send people from there all around the world."

Communist governments cover things up. This is not new. China tried to cover up the 2002 SARS outbreak too, but a whistle blower let the world know about it.
Doctor who exposed Sars cover-up is under house arrest in China, family confirms
Dr. Yanyong exposed the CCP's cover up of SARs in 2002. Sound familiar?

Point 3: Questionable and historical events as evidence:

"Does that remind you of anything? Maybe old stories of U.S. soldiers giving smallpox-infected blankets to Indian tribes they hoped to wipe out? Or the German general staff shipping Lenin to Russia, to bring down its tottering regime in 1917, and knock it out of the war?"

The stories about U.S. soldiers giving blankets to indians goes to Ward Churchill, who was eventually sacked for plagiarizing another researcher's work to make that claim. While history often repeats is a axiom, which history is repeating is open to debate, and is not proof by itself of any individual argument.

Point 4: Hanlon's Razor: "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."

Restricting travel out of Wuhan to China made sense. But if they restricted travel from Wuhan to the rest of the world, that would include foreign nationals who could not get home. That would raise the question why international air travel was locked down. Now that it is out in the open, China is trying to spread conspiracies that the U.S. started it. That qualifies as stupid in my book.

39 posted on 04/17/2020 3:45:54 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Mrs. Don-o

No
Sh1t
Sherlock


40 posted on 04/17/2020 4:00:34 PM PDT by Starcitizen (Communist China needs to be treated like the parish country it is. Send it back to 1971)
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