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Steyn Online ^ | 11 Apr 2020 | Kathy Shaidle

Posted on 04/12/2020 10:28:17 AM PDT by Rummyfan

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To: SoCal Pubbie

No.


41 posted on 04/12/2020 11:21:54 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

It wasn’t planted. The “magic bullet” wasn’t pristine. It was deformed (laterally flattened), and behaved precisely as you would expect if it went through JFK’s throat without hitting bone, and then was slowed down and tumbling when it exited JFK and hit Connolly.

A tumbling, slowed bullet would deform just like that if it hit Connolly’s ribs sideways. Connolly’s back entry wound indicates this.

Posner did a better job explaining this than I could, but I found it convincing.


42 posted on 04/12/2020 11:22:22 AM PDT by StoneRainbow68
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To: jmacusa

LOL!!! Back when Teddy the Whale was alive I used to say “When is somebody going to get a hat trick?”


43 posted on 04/12/2020 11:23:11 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the video")
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To: dfwgator

Exactly the point. If for nothing else in his short pathetic life Lee Harvey Oswald did become a United States Marine. And I know for a fact, because my oldest brother was Marine lieutenant 1st. Marine Division in the late 70’s that if you don’t qualify as a marksman, not ‘close enough’’, or well that’s not bad shooting’’. No. It doesn’t work that way. You pick up that rifle and hit that target dead on or it’s no Globe And Anchor. You don’t become a Marine if you don’t qualify as a marksman.


44 posted on 04/12/2020 11:23:53 AM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Not only was the jump seat lower, is was offset laterally in relation to JFK’s position.

Also Connelly's position was not sitting upright and facing straight ahead as portrayed usually. He was twisted looking to the right and his torso in that position, makes the 7 hits perfectly align.

45 posted on 04/12/2020 11:24:10 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: SoCal Pubbie
one lone nut

It's the American way!
46 posted on 04/12/2020 11:24:33 AM PDT by Colinsky
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To: dp0622

I read some MSM commentator’s comment about how the British weren’t as brutal as they were portrayed in the film, that for instance they didn’t burn a church with people in it. I later read that they actually did do that. The Brits have not been angels in their treatment of their colonists by any stretch.


47 posted on 04/12/2020 11:26:08 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the video")
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To: Rummyfan; All
I have never seen Thirteen Days but here's the link referenced in the post:

’Thirteen Days’ Doesn’t Add Up

48 posted on 04/12/2020 11:26:22 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

I have, twice, and looked out the window from the sixth floor adjacent to the sniper’s nest. It was an easy shot. The limo was more or less stationary in relation to Oswald’s position as it was moving away from him, with only a slight deviation upward and to the right, the same direction as the error in the rifle scope.

There is simply NO evidence of anyone’s involvement other than Oswald.


49 posted on 04/12/2020 11:27:27 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Correct. The kill shot was a piece of cake for someone with Oswald’s experience.


50 posted on 04/12/2020 11:28:41 AM PDT by StoneRainbow68
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To: pfflier

Correct. The conspiracy theorists also ignore the oblong wound in Connelly’s back, evidence that the bullet was tumbling after striking JFK.


51 posted on 04/12/2020 11:30:37 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: StoneRainbow68
Forensic ballistics is a very inexact science. Like I said, I work in the firearms industry, I am working now because I work for an essential defense industry employer. I make, test and shoot gun barrels. I can just use my own experience shooting rifles of virtually every caliber, from .17 to 20mm to say that projectile, and the circumstances of its discovery strikes me as phony.

Also, the killshot from the Zapruder film was fired from the front, and was not from a 6.5 Carcano.

52 posted on 04/12/2020 11:31:36 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

“Correct. The conspiracy theorists also ignore the oblong wound in Connelly’s back, evidence that the bullet was tumbling after striking JFK.”

Yes. What makes the most sense is the bullet had been slowed so much by going through two torsos, that it finally came to rest and lodged under the skin of Connolly’s right hand. Which is why it easily worked free and popped out at Parkland, and was found on Connolly’s gurney.


53 posted on 04/12/2020 11:33:24 AM PDT by StoneRainbow68
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Sorry, I’m a conspiracy nut. I’ve seen videos with your assertion, but I still don’t think Oswald could do it. I shot for years under stress, but far less stress than trying to kill the president, and I don’t think the “lone wolf” version of Oswald was capable, even with as “easy” a shot as you claim it to be.May I ask what your experience with firearms is? Hunting, competition, etc.?
54 posted on 04/12/2020 11:39:30 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass; SoCal Pubbie

Sorry, got my tags wrong; hate typing on ipads


55 posted on 04/12/2020 11:42:00 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

“Also, the killshot from the Zapruder film was fired from the front, and was not from a 6.5 Carcano.”

No. The entry wound in the back of JFK’s head, and is well known from the autopsy photos, with the bullet shattering inside the skull and blowing out the right side of his head.

JFK’s head goes backwards because that was the direction of the shot. The entry wound produces almost no energy transferred to the body. The exit wound is what causes the head to move backwards. Penn and Teller (of all people) demonstrated this by shooting bullets at melons, and seeing which direction they moved after the bullet hit them. The melons moved in the direction OF the shooter, not away from it.

The entry wound does nothing, the exit wound transfers kinetic energy to the body.

I’m arguing from memory based on the book I mentioned, which I haven’t read recently. But that’s the gist of it.


56 posted on 04/12/2020 11:42:08 AM PDT by StoneRainbow68
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To: StoneRainbow68

JFK Conspiracy Theories are a Leftist plot to detract from the fact that it was a Commie that killed JFK.

Watch Cronkite the day of the assassination, he just *knew* it had to be a right-winger that did it.


57 posted on 04/12/2020 11:44:39 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Chauncey Gardiner

“Trained Marine rifleman from several stories shooting a moving target moving down and away, with a $25 mail order rifle/scope combo. Thats how I’d plan it”

He would have trained in the Marines with an M1-Garand. A fine weapon, 8 round clip, semi-automatic. With such he could have gotten off 8 well aimed shots in under 10 seconds. The distance was only 265 feet. You really did not need a scope, however the M1-Garand Model D has a side mounted scope. Thus one can use the open sights or the scope.

For a marine this would have been the most logical weapon to use. The 30:06 147 grain slug at 2700 feet per second would be devastating.


58 posted on 04/12/2020 11:44:48 AM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, oil field trash, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, Constitution worth dying for)
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To: Hardastarboard

Yes they did.

I Love that England elected someone sensible and did Brexit.

But we, as conservatives, don’t believe in history being rewritten to fit an agenda.

They were brutal.

Now they are (I still think) one of our most loyal allies.

It is what it is.


59 posted on 04/12/2020 11:46:57 AM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists dont point finges aat me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: Sans-Culotte

Yeah they were Brutal.

Doesn’t make them less of a country now or less of an ally.

But history should be told the way it was.

Changing history is for communists and fascists.


60 posted on 04/12/2020 11:48:03 AM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists dont point finges aat me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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