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It Turns Out We Have Enough Ventilators and They May Do More Harm Than Good for COVID-19
Rush Limbaugh,com ^ | April 9, 2020 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 04/09/2020 1:04:34 PM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 04/09/2020 1:04:34 PM PDT by Kaslin
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Just saw where a drugged strong male took out his intubation tube after recovering somewhat with tocilizumab.

Texas, of course.


2 posted on 04/09/2020 1:07:54 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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I am assured by my physician daughter that while there are many uses for invasive ventilators, if any patient, of any age needs one for ARDS, whether or not caused by the ChiCom bio-weapon, the prognosis is never good.

It’s truely a last resort.


3 posted on 04/09/2020 1:15:01 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: Kaslin

So the reason we had to Prolong the Spread (aka Flatten the Curve) was to save lives by not overwhelming the hospitals which were constrained by ventilator capacity. Now that has proven to be false can we get back Shorten the Spread?


4 posted on 04/09/2020 1:15:07 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Kaslin

I love Rush....but there is a lot of marginal and bad info in that piece.......


5 posted on 04/09/2020 1:18:41 PM PDT by Osage Orange (FWIW)
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I love Rush....but there is a lot of marginal and bad info in that piece.......

In an effort to maintain quality info here on FR, would you mind saying which info is marginal and/or bad?

6 posted on 04/09/2020 1:37:49 PM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Osage Orange

If you are put on a ventilator for any reason, the odds that you are going to walk out of the hospital are slim at best. The fact is that these ventilators are only marginally effective.

It is looking like the problem with Covid19 is not that the lungs aren’t working, but that the blood becomes incapable of carrying oxygen. All the ventilators in the world can’t fix that.


7 posted on 04/09/2020 1:55:04 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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If you are put on a ventilator for any reason, the odds that you are going to walk out of the hospital are slim at best.

Well....I very much disagree...I happen to be a RRT...have been for many, many years.

8 posted on 04/09/2020 1:58:00 PM PDT by Osage Orange (FWIW)
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To: P-Marlowe

hyperbaric chamber?


9 posted on 04/09/2020 1:58:02 PM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: Kaslin

I just read the Army shut down the field hospital they built in the Seattle sports complex. After 9 days. Never used.

https://www.kuow.org/stories/washington-state-to-return-centurylink-field-hospital-to-feds


10 posted on 04/09/2020 2:00:48 PM PDT by nascarnation
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Week ago a doc called in to promote an option to the ventilator . . .
Hemolung vs. Ventilator

11 posted on 04/09/2020 2:31:35 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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To: Lou L
Sure just for one thing...someone shows up in an ER and their Pulse Ox..is below 93%...it's NOT panic time.

There are people out there...that run in the high 80's...That is their norm.

I could try to explain the OxyHemoglobin Disassociation Curve to you... but it won't make sense to you.

I'm RRT...I do not get worried until someone's Pulse Ox reading is under 80....That's when the curve falls off precipitously.

12 posted on 04/09/2020 2:44:31 PM PDT by Osage Orange (FWIW)
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Do you not agree that if the problem is that the blood can’t carry oxygen that all the ventilators in the world aren’t going to help? You need to treat the blood not the lungs.

Right now most Covid patients who are put on a ventilator die anyway. Or do you have different information?


13 posted on 04/09/2020 2:47:05 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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Here is what YOU said....

If you are put on a ventilator for any reason, the odds that you are going to walk out of the hospital are slim at best.

THAT is what I replied to...and your statement was very wrong.

14 posted on 04/09/2020 2:50:33 PM PDT by Osage Orange (FWIW)
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To: Osage Orange

https://www.sacbee.com/news/coronavirus/article241893476.html


15 posted on 04/09/2020 2:55:33 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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Not going to even read it....sacbee is BS number one...and I know what I’m talking about.


16 posted on 04/09/2020 2:57:08 PM PDT by Osage Orange (FWIW)
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What percentage of patients with severe respiratory distress actually survive being put on ventilators?

What percentage of Covid19 patients who are put on ventilators survive?


17 posted on 04/09/2020 3:00:55 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: P-Marlowe
Re-read this please......

Here is what YOU said.... If you are put on a ventilator for any reason, the odds that you are going to walk out of the hospital are slim at best.

THAT is what I replied to...and your statement was very wrong. Do you not understand?

18 posted on 04/09/2020 3:01:54 PM PDT by Osage Orange (FWIW)
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To: Osage Orange

A 50/50 chance of survival is pretty slim in my book.


19 posted on 04/09/2020 3:04:09 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: P-Marlowe
I cannot help you...understand.

I'm done....

20 posted on 04/09/2020 3:06:34 PM PDT by Osage Orange (FWIW)
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