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1 posted on 03/05/2020 6:56:42 PM PST by NRx
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The joys of socialized medicine.


2 posted on 03/05/2020 6:58:41 PM PST by NRx (A man of honor passes his father's civilization to his son without surrendering it to strangers.)
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To: NRx

The greatness of socialized medicine...


3 posted on 03/05/2020 6:59:00 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: null and void; aragorn; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; Beautiful_Gracious_Skies; bgill; bitt; ...
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PING

6 posted on 03/05/2020 7:01:41 PM PST by LucyT
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“If we haven’t got ventilatory support to offer them, it’s going to end in death...”

As long as Mohammed and his wife in a bag aren't inconvenienced, it's all good.
9 posted on 03/05/2020 7:06:20 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: NRx; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; ...
“If we haven’t got ventilatory support to offer them, it’s going to end in death,”

This is one reason we must quarantine. Even if we can't stop the spread, just slowing it down means fewer critically ill patients at any given time, and spreading the spread, if you will, means that the hospitals don't have a high peak number of patients to overwhelm the system.

Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it.

12 posted on 03/05/2020 7:12:29 PM PST by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: NRx

All flu winds up in some deaths.

Who knew?


15 posted on 03/05/2020 7:16:20 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The DNC has a taxidermist on speed for Nancy, Hillary, and Ruth.)
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"one-seventh the number of intensive care beds per person that the United States"

Wow. It's not that they have 90% of the per-capita beds of the U.S. Not that they have 50%. Noooo...they 14% of the per-capita beds as we do.

"You won't mind if six other people join you in your bed, do you?"

16 posted on 03/05/2020 7:25:24 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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This is what the guy on the Peak Prosperity video said about the UK. Only 28 beds available in the whole country for severe respiratory disease, and have of those were occupied.

And that’s before they had hardly any cases.


17 posted on 03/05/2020 7:28:50 PM PST by DannyTN
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(From the article):“If we haven’t got ventilatory support to offer them, it’s going to end in death,” said Dr. George Priestley..
“I don’t want to be alarmist. I just want someone to pay attention.” From the article): "

Remember all that socialized medicine that OBungler promised through OBunglercare ?
Did you already cash that $2200 check that was going to come to us under single-payer state sponsored healthcare ?
Remember how effective and cheap all that socialized medicine in Canada was offered as evidence of single-payer success ?
Then why are Canadians flocking across the border in Michigan and Buffalo for healthcare, ..and paying cash ?!
Now Bernie is offering the socialist medicine care as a pillar of his platform, without telling you how how will finance it.
Under socialized medicine, you'll have to wait for 4 months for that respirator, even if its available.

18 posted on 03/05/2020 7:37:39 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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..“We’re already at maximum capacity and clearing out beds as best we can,” said Dr. Nick Scriven, a specialist in urgent conditions in Halifax, a town in northern England, and the former president of The Society for Acute Medicine.

This is happening in every country regardless of their health care systems. 15% or so WILL require hospitalization. There is not that much capacity in the US. Not even close.

20 posted on 03/05/2020 7:49:18 PM PST by DouglasKC
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100% hype.
The Brits have their life in control.
21 posted on 03/05/2020 7:57:11 PM PST by cloudmountain
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Coronavirus: Supermarkets preparing for ‘food riots’ as panic buying Brits strip shelves
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/coronavirus-supermarkets-preparing-food-riots-21642224


23 posted on 03/05/2020 8:21:34 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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If only every country in the world was run like China, there would be no problem with containment. This is the barrow the commie loving media will push more and more.


26 posted on 03/05/2020 9:13:35 PM PST by Long Jon No Silver
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Do not fail to check this out. Blows away everything you saw so far on the coronavirus and shows the mass hypocrisy at the top world wide over this known, man made, virus since 1981.  It's now being used as a means toward absolute control of populations.  Martial law, gun confiscation, etc.  Also seems the powers behind world conquest feel the need to push this part of the agenda forward 20 years. Images below are pages from the Dean Koontz NOVEL “Eyes of Darkness” PUBLISHED IN 1981!!!
27 posted on 03/05/2020 9:49:41 PM PST by Dick Bachert (THE DEEP STATE HATES YOU!)
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As of 03/05/2020 23:53 PST

These numbers include Mainland China and All Others globally

98,387 declared cases
03,383 declared deceased
55,441 declared recovered
58,824 declared resolved
39,563 remaining active cases

The mortality rate at this time was deceased / deceased + recovered = 5.75%.
That is a fluid number that is now dropping at the rate of about 0.05% per day.
Due to the rapid increase in cases outside China, and the short period they
have had to reach the recovery phase, this mortality rate is slowing in it's
retreat. It likely start climbing again within a few days.

On 03/05 95.10% of all new cases were being reported outside of Mainland
China. The outside China active cases now account for 39.95% of all global
remaining active cases. That figure grew by 5.07% on Thursday 03/05. Within
48 hours over 50% of all remaining active cases, will exist outside Mailand
China for the first time.

58,824 cases have been decleared resolved, and that represents 59.788% of all
declared cases to date. (resolved = deceased or recovered)

Active cases are increasing again. For the first time since 02/17, the number of
acive cases grew on Thursday (03/05). The active cases grew by 823 cases. That
number will be larger in upcoming days. There are now 39,563 active cases. That
is 19,246 less cases than there were at 15:13 PST on 02/17/2020. That figure was
58,809.

Numbers seem to indicate that we are at least two weeks away from another peak, and
perhaps much longer. Look for active cases to grow by 1500 to 2500 for an
indeterminate period of time.

The number of people who recovered today (03/02), was 2,139.

These numbers address the cases outside of Mainland China.

17,832 declared cases
00,341 declared deceased
01,685 declared recovered
02,026 declared resolved
15,806 remaining active cases

At this point 18.12% of all declared cases exist outside Mainland China.
(eod: 03/05) At the same time, 39.95% of all active cases exist outside mainland
China.

The current mortality rate of deceased / deceased + recovered is 16.83% falling from
18.59% at EOD 03/04, the previous day. That figure is still grosely high, and should
not be used for purposes of extrapolation of what lies ahead. It takes serveral weeks
for people to be infected, and recover. That gives the deaths a head start. As in
the large body of cases above, this mortality rate will decline, and will pick up
speed as the recovery rate outside Mainland China reaches it's full potential. That
will at least several more weeks.

There are now 15,806 active cases outside of Mainland China. The number of
active cases grew 2,792 cases today, and that was a rate of 16.96%. (EOD 03/05)

Ninety-three nations are now declaring cases within their borders. 1+

Three nations of the 92 nations or entities outside of Mainland China account for
over 75% of all active cases outside China at this time.

6,284 35.24% South Korea
3,858 21.64% Italy
3,513 19.70% Iran

76.58% of all cases ourside of China...

These are clearly three break-out naitons. The next possible hot spots:

0423 France
0545 Germany
0282 Spain
0233 the U. S.

It's not necessarily the number of current cases, as much as the velocity of growth.
When I see a naiton's count growing by 50% every day or two, it causes concern.

All of this informaton is derived from the database below, which was built using the
Johns Hopkins University Coronavirus status page. I watch it daily and capture three
to five batches of data per day.

In my spreadsheet linked below, you'll find global numbers including China. You will
find a separate section addressing just the Outside China figures. There are also
a lot of special stats broken out for you to browse. The history of 93 nations and
their Coronavirus record is there for you to view.

You're welcoem to it.

COVID-19 Spreadsheet using JHU data

File XLSX

File XLS

30 posted on 03/06/2020 1:29:41 AM PST by DoughtyOne (The DNC has a taxidermist on speed for Nancy, Hillary, and Ruth.)
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Nationalized Medicine is ill prepared

come back in 6 months


32 posted on 03/06/2020 2:01:00 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Everyone knows Hillary was corrupt, lied, destroyed documents, and influenced witnesses. Rat crime.)
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...doctors say they would have to consider denying lifesaving care to the frailest patients to prioritize those with better chances of surviving.”

Having this said in the West? They will just have to let people die rather than try to get in front of it somehow? yikes.


35 posted on 03/06/2020 3:50:20 AM PST by kelly4c
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