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Vermont Lawmakers Propose Bill to Legalize Prostitution
Breitbart ^ | 12/12/2020 | Amy Furr

Posted on 01/13/2020 8:55:34 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: ChicagoConservative27

Social cost schmocial cost - there’s good revenue in vice. Plus the ruined lives become dependents of the state and vote dem


41 posted on 01/13/2020 9:44:06 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It’s the Whorepocalyse!!!


42 posted on 01/13/2020 9:44:29 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The State needs revenue!


43 posted on 01/13/2020 9:49:05 AM PST by LoveMyFreedom
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To: MrEdd; MarkL
MarkL: she has no protection at all from the law. If she tries going to the police (or even calling for help while being assaulted,) she opens herself up to criminal charges, and unfortunately, many in law enforcement (and the public) see the assault as "something that she was asking for."

As things are, she does have protection, she just has to turn herself in.

MarkL explained exactly what he meant by "no protection at all from the law". Your word games do your argument no service.

44 posted on 01/13/2020 9:49:15 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: ChicagoConservative27
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45 posted on 01/13/2020 9:54:08 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true.... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: NobleFree

The whole police not taking rape of prostitutes as rape is less an issue in most districts than in the past. And its far better to keep protection running both ways with the law as spoiler.

I am not playing “word games” I simply missed a sentence in the post to which I was responding.


46 posted on 01/13/2020 9:57:44 AM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

How do you license and register a vajj?
How do you attach the tags and inspection stickers?
Where do you take the defective vajj for repairs and tune-ups?
If the vajj is damaged due to misuse or issues with over capacity does the warranty cover the damages?


47 posted on 01/13/2020 10:01:16 AM PST by gathersnomoss (Welcome to North Mexico, Gringo's it...)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Houses of prostitution are already legal. They just call it “House of Congress.”


48 posted on 01/13/2020 10:02:13 AM PST by I want the USA back (If free speech is taken away, dumb and silent we are led, like sheep to the slaughter: G Washington)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Some say the Nevada model of legal prostitution works well. Among other things, there are licensing and health requirements, including mandatory condom use.

The legality of Prostitution in Nevada is overstated by prostitution advocates.

The fact is the parts of Nevada that the vast majority of people live in prostitution is illegal, just like everywhere else in America. Specifically: prostitution is illegal in Las Vegas, Reno and Henderson - the three biggest cities in Nevada, as well as the entire counties that contain those cities.

75% of Nevada residents live in Clark County, alone. When you add in Washoe County (Reno) you might be up around 90%.

Basically the Nevada model is that you can locate your retail sex business in the middle of nowhere.

Most other states don't have entire counties with almost no one in them. It's not clear how you apply the "Nevada model" to somewhere like Vermont, which doesn't have an empty quarter. Esmerelda County, NV, for instance has a population of 783.

If legal prostitution caused so few problems in Nevada then I would expect them to open up Reno, Las Veagas and Henderson to it, but no one is talking about doing that. Instead there has been some discussion of closing the empty county loophole and making selling sex illegal in the whole state.

49 posted on 01/13/2020 10:03:22 AM PST by Jack Black (please visit my profile page)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Now it won’t just be the government f-ing you over for money.


50 posted on 01/13/2020 10:04:58 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: MarkL
If prostitution is kept illegal, and a John beats and rapes a woman who is a prostitute, she has no protection at all from the law.

Not true. Especially in the last 10 years as awareness of human sex trafficking has grown the police are much more aware of the dynamics of the sex-trade, and in many cities their reflex action now is to assume that every woman working as a prostitute is "being trafficked". Assault is assault, and the police won't hesitate to arrest people who beat up other people in most places, regardless of the context.

This same argument is the one used for why we can't prosecute illegals. If we do then no illegal will be able to talk to the police.

In both cases it's being oversold. Both police and people reporting suffering crimes are pretty smart, and able to prioritize things.

51 posted on 01/13/2020 10:08:12 AM PST by Jack Black (please visit my profile page)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Prostitution in some form has been around since the dawn of time.

This is true--but prostitution is wrong, and a pernicious sin that attracts other revolting and violent things even where it's legal.

We need to accept, not prostitution as legal, but original sin as a fact. That means there are things that tempt us through our weak human nature that we must reject and resist, or be destroyed. If we legally endorse the idea that sex is NOT a sacred thing that belongs only to marriage, we blow up everything.

Why? If you legalize what's wrong that you like, such as nookie with no strings attached, you get what's wrong that you don't like--such as rampant venereal disease, and then abortion to eliminate the "hazard" of pregnancy in prostitutes. That denies the sacredness of life, so you next get euthanasia, and then the "law" dictating who gets dibs on medical care. And dictating how many kids you can have. Not far from that is routine political murder, as in China (and perhaps the deep-state here) today. Followed by genocide in Russia in the 1930s, Germany in the 1940s, and of course China in the 1960s and today.

Extra-marital nookie is a major weapon in the arsenal of totalitarians because it undermines the main resistance to dictatorship, which is the family.

Besides legalizing prostitution and persecuting religion, all socialists seem to create coed youth groups and then order the kids to go on multi-day nature hikes with no separation of the sexes for sleeping, washing or bathrooms. The Commies in Russia and China, and the Nazis in Germany did this. The kids of course would screw around and get drawn away from their families toward this brave new world of the State.

We can't go down that path. It leads to hell in this life and the next.

52 posted on 01/13/2020 10:10:25 AM PST by SamuraiScot (am)
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To: rstrahan; All

Yeah,that’s working out swell with marijuana.
This prostitution law promises to simultaneously crack down on human trafficking and underage protitution, but actually incentivizes both, while increasing law enforcement costs of sorting out who’s guilty of what.
You’re right, people are still gonna do it. But when quality of life/nuisance crimes are arrestable offenses, it deters most people altogether, while forcing those “who’ll do it anyway” to hide behind closed doors and stay on the run, or at least operate only in crime-ridden neighborhoods.
Legalizing it means law abiding conservatives who pay high dollar to live in safer neighborhoods now have no recourse, no basis upon which to call the cops. It’s legal! And now we’re the bigots, the haters, harassing the poor girls—and trannies— servicing customers next door, or in parked cars, and inviting our teenage sons to stop by!
I don’t want legally permitted & emboldened prostitutes opening up shop on my block, any more than I want stoners toking and shooting up at my door. I don’t want ANY of this around my kids. Do you?
The “people are gonna do it anyway, so let’s encourage more people to do it” argument is why we have 60 million dead babies, and the general moral disintegration that surrounds abortion; it’s why our cities are coming apart at the seams, and it’s getting harder to find a safe, sane place to live.
Sorry, I didn’t mean to unleash a rant on you. But the “let’s just regulate & tax it” trope is a common one that most folks don’t think through to its consequences.


53 posted on 01/13/2020 10:15:51 AM PST by mumblypeg
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To: Sacajaweau

Or like this isn’t going to increase the number of girls and women forced into this work. Drug addiction will also go up. I find it hard to believe that many women choose this way of life without something bad happening to them in their past or some means of luring or forcing them into it.


54 posted on 01/13/2020 10:16:05 AM PST by Pining_4_TX ("Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods." ~ H.L. Mencken)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

There’s nothing conservative about prostitution, drug abuse or gambling.

“One of the bill’s sponsors, Rep. Selene Colburn who is a Burlington Progressive,...”

Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermont_Progressive_Party
“The Vermont Progressive Party is a political party in the United States founded in 1999 and active only in the state of Vermont. The party is largely social democratic and progressive.”


55 posted on 01/13/2020 10:24:33 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Pining_4_TX
"Or like this isn’t going to increase the number of girls and women forced into this work. Drug addiction will also go up. I find it hard to believe that many women choose this way of life without something bad happening to them in their past or some means of luring or forcing them into it."

You're right. As it is, good girls are pressured and enticed by bad girls to indulge in promiscuity. It's in style. If nothing else works to convince a virgin, they'll put a drug in her drink. Such cases are difficult to investigate and prosecute. Some police are even libertines now, making those situations more difficult for victims and their families.

Legalized or not, it's still criminal activity. Criminal minds refuse to consider consequences.

56 posted on 01/13/2020 10:37:39 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: MarkL

“If..a John beats and rapes a woman who is a prostitute, she has no protection at all from the law.”

Sorry, no. That’s one of those “used to be true, but ain’t no mo” ideas. Went out along with the idea that ANY rape victim who’d ever had sex previously must have been “asking for it.”
The attitudes you reference went out with miscegenation, lynching, and gay bashing.
Any rape or assault reported by anyone is allegedly a crime & must be investigated. Any victim— no matter who s/he is— can get a lawyer, call a press conference, and sue the crap out of any police force that refuses to investigate.


57 posted on 01/13/2020 10:38:29 AM PST by mumblypeg
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To: Pining_4_TX
Agree. All this means is that guys won't get arrested.

One of my bosses son was arrested in my hometown and it got in the newspapers.

58 posted on 01/13/2020 10:40:44 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: MrEdd

Ditto on Epstein.


59 posted on 01/13/2020 10:51:13 AM PST by umgud
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Significant new drama to be associated with workfare.


60 posted on 01/13/2020 10:58:29 AM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Re: Revolution 2.0 / CWII - the side that owns the air wins)
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