Posted on 01/13/2020 8:55:34 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
A bill to legalize adult prostitution in Vermont was recently introduced by female lawmakers in the state’s legislature.
The bill’s text read:
This bill proposes to repeal the prostitution laws while retaining felony human trafficking laws that prohibit recruiting, enticing, harboring, transporting, providing, or obtaining a minor for the purpose of commercial sex; patronizing a minor for commercial sex; recruiting, enticing, harboring, transporting, providing, or obtaining any person through force, fraud, or coercion for the purpose of having the person engage in commercial sex; compelling any person through force, fraud, or coercion to engage in commercial sex; and patronizing any person for a commercial sex act who is being compelled through force, fraud, or coercion to engage in a commercial sex.
One of the bill’s sponsors, Rep. Selene Colburn who is a Burlington Progressive, said she believed decriminalizing so-called “sex work” would offer prostitutes more safety and improve their health.
Colburn also stated that if prostitution were not considered illegal in the state, charges would not be brought against the sex worker or the buyer, the VTDigger reported.
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Libertarians are libertines, ultra hedonists.
I don’t have the Moral Absolutes ping list any more; I did attempt to see if people were interested in reviving it but it was very slim.
VA Demsheviks are going whole hog.
Vast numbers are forced because after being beaten and raped they become too scared.
Which part of "legal" did you not understand?
defense of prostitution
Straw man - I haven't seen anyone here defending prostitution, but only saying that it's less bad for it to be legal than illegal.
Then perhaps we can agree that murdering Democrats should be legal. That way we’ll get more dead Dems and less police negligence?
Prostitution never has enough Willie people to satisfy the demand. Making it legal doesn’t change that important dynamic and that is why places like New Zealand which has legal prostitution also has people forced into prostitution.
No, it’s not less bad.
My understanding is that this has been claimed but not backed up with evidence. Do you have information to the contrary?
They would with me (My actual first name is Edwin) because I served on a board of trustees set up to rewrite the manual for sex workers anonymous in the years 2013, 2014, and 2015.
Forced prostitution generates a supply to meet a demand.
A significant part of the demand is always youth. Everything from just under the age of consent, to infants. So outside of India and the Islamic world that is always illegal and the people who fall prey to that very often continue as adults or return to prostitution as adults.
The people who desire to purchase the young do not settle for older prostitutes just because it becomes legal someplace. They will risk prison to buy what they want. Hell, they will travel across the planet and risk miserable foreign prisons.
Agreed, legalizing prostitution by adults leaves child trafficking untouched. As you indicate, they're separate issues.
My analogy works just fine. What you’re describing is rape...not prostitution.
No, it doesn't, for the reason I explained.
What you’re describing is rape...not prostitution.
Being forced into prostitution is a horrendous wrong; the illegality of even consensual prostitution makes it that much easier to force women into it.
People choosing to sell themselves for drug money or economic desperation? You get what you get.
Forced prostitution of young people or kids? They can preselect for beauty or some other marketable characteristic. So as long as there is prostitution there will be forced prostitution.
No, it doesn’t, for the reason I explained.
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Yes, it does. You could be forced into child pornography. Should we legalize that because it might bring shame/difficulties to someone later in life?
Take a deep breath and think about it.
Here’s my last comment on this (because it seems to be going nowhere). It would stand to reason that even an adult is not “meaningfully consenting” to sexual acts if they are forced into prostitution. It sounds a whole lot like rape to me. Regardless, most decent people are not going to want prostitution legalized. It’s easy enough to get prostitutes in certain areas with it criminalized. Legalizing it only adds an air of legitimacy to the whole occupation. I doubt that what most noble people want to do. It is indeed sad that people get forced into it. If they are mistreated when they attempt to leave, that is also a tragedy, but legalizing will cause more negative consequences than positive. Could U.S. culture become even more hyper-sexualized? It sure could...just legalize the profession and see what comes next.
Agreed. I'd say the effects we've seen so far give an idea of how the rest of the story will read if we finish the job (God forbid).
It's a moronic idea. Legalize it and you'll get more of it and the demand will result in greater sex trafficking and spread of STDs.
And, who the hell wants the government expending tax resources to assure brothels are using condoms or that women aren't being coerced into sex slavery? The government shouldn't be playing the role of pimp daddy.
From fresh powder and trout fishing to nose powder and trouser snakes.
LOL. Zoning laws exist because the citizenry demand them to exist thus.
People don’t want abortuaries or hog renderers or strip joints in their neighborhoods, regardless of their legality. These are stationary businesses which require a fixed location.
Prostitutes can go both ways— in a fixed establishment, or as freelancers. Sole proprietors, as it were.
You seem to be all in, bending yourself into a pretzel to defend it. Let’s just say you apparently favor legalizing, regulating, zoning & taxing prostitution — with the logical inference being you’d be ok with your daughter joining the profession, as long as she gets regular AIDS checkups— and I will always be against it.
Excellent post, well thought out and clearly stated. You get it, FRiend. :^)
Anytime we wonder, should we or shouldn’t we? we need look no farther than the original Ten Commandments. After all is said & done, that’s where the legal code, upon which Western Civilization was built, comes from.
So you think local laws are powerless to ban, say, food trucks from residential neighborhoods? Can you provide any reason to believe that?
Let’s just say you apparently favor legalizing, regulating, zoning & taxing prostitution —
Correct.
with the logical inference being you’d be ok with your daughter joining the profession
No, not logical. I wouldn't be OK with her becoming a septic tank cleaner, either - but that's not a good reason to ban that activity.
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