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Iran says it ‘unintentionally’ shot down Ukrainian jetliner
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iranian state TV, citing a military statement, says the country ‘unintentionally ^ | 1/10/2020 | uncredited

Posted on 01/10/2020 7:52:59 PM PST by Eddie01

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To: Eddie01

Inadvertent error.

Used by lying Ass gubbermints and booerkraps worldwide.

Said with straight faces.


121 posted on 01/10/2020 11:20:09 PM PST by Gasshog
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To: Celtic Conservative

Hey you spill minestrone that’s almost as bad!

I know some people who did it with malice in their heart.

They’re no longer around :)

Now the ny slimes and the wapost, disgusting ####ing Amerca hating Pigs that they are, can stop blaming the makers of the plane in a vain attempt to clear Iran


122 posted on 01/11/2020 12:11:49 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: Salamander

Thoreau? I’m suitably impressed.

CC


123 posted on 01/11/2020 12:24:29 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV)
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To: Celtic Conservative
Ehhhh, I believe we shot one down in the Gulf some years back.

There is some difference here though.

The one we shot down had been given orders to change path at 20 miles out and subsequent times after that. At 10 miles from our carrier group it was warned again.

The plane continued on and was shot down.

124 posted on 01/11/2020 12:30:47 AM PST by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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To: Advil000
Are they completely self guided and unstoppable once launched or was there an abort option that could have been transmitted?

The question you pose would be sensible only if the Iranians hadn't double-tapped the commercial airliner.

Regards,

125 posted on 01/11/2020 12:43:29 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: eyedigress
They get their talking points from MSNBC.

Iran must be pleased with the very supportive coverage coming from the Democrat propaganda outlets. The Dems and the Iranian IslamoNazis have a common enemy in Donald Trump.

126 posted on 01/11/2020 12:44:06 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: Spktyr
Dear Iran: This is why you don’t leave a system in automatic mode unless there’s actually an active shooting war going on.

Many, if not most missile systems, and some gun weapon systems, have an "automatic mode", for times when the situation is beyond the ability of operators to decide and act on threats. But no one operates these systems without a human in the firing chain, a "man in the loop". To do so would be gross incompetence.

127 posted on 01/11/2020 12:45:03 AM PST by ETCM
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To: Eddie01

Seems an Iranian aircraft circa 1960’s tried to take out one of our drones years ago.Here’s what happened, pretty well know:
https://www.wearethemighty.com/history/f-22-maricked-iranian-fighters?rebelltitem=3#rebelltitem3

One of the F-22 Raptor pilots flying escort for the drone flew up underneath the Iranian Phantoms. According to then-Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Welsh, the Raptor pilot checked out the armaments the Iranian planes were carrying, then pulled up on their left wing and radioed them.

One of the F-22 Raptor pilots flying escort for the drone flew up underneath the Iranian Phantoms. According to then-Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Welsh, the Raptor pilot checked out the armaments the Iranian planes were carrying, then pulled up on their left wing and radioed them.

“He [the Raptor pilot] flew under their aircraft [the F-4s] to check out their weapons load without them knowing that he was there, and then pulled up on their left wing and then called them and said
“ ‘you really ought to go home’,” Welsh said.
They did.


128 posted on 01/11/2020 12:48:27 AM PST by rodguy911
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To: Eddie01

It may have been a mistake but it wasn’t unintentional

They fired a surface to air missile at the jet liner


129 posted on 01/11/2020 1:05:44 AM PST by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: Eddie01

I unintentionally drove 85mph today..


130 posted on 01/11/2020 1:15:01 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: KC_Lion

Yeah, well, those guys are A-holes...

Can’t believe they bailed on an opportunity to bash that Orange Plick....

/S


131 posted on 01/11/2020 1:16:11 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Possibly the most profound thing I’ve ever read.


132 posted on 01/11/2020 2:02:53 AM PST by Salamander (Living On The Ledge....)
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To: Eddie01; Fred Nerks

Can you imagine these dufus wingnut Islamofascists having nuclear weapons?

Ooopsey, we accidentally wiped Tel Aviv off the map?

So far all the Iranians and America have accomplished is provided a convenient way for, George Soros , Joe and Hunter Biden to fly Ukraine Air as recommended by American patriots every where.

Just Turn on the Automated Russin TOR antiaircraft missile battery and walk away, mumbling: “Alahwahoo Whackbar.”

The UPSIDE OF OOOPSEY ACCORDING TO Iranian Islamofascists:

If the world blows up , we all get to sit at the right hand of Allah, at the bottom of the well of the 12th Imam.

This is why we should have taken out EVERY one of their Uranium refining Plutonium facilities and every one of their ballistic missile testing beds, as soon as we knew they had shot down that Ukrainian airliner, whether intentional or not.

We may never get another chance short of WWIII. Unfortunately it was America that blinked.


133 posted on 01/11/2020 2:27:14 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obam_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: alexander_busek
The question you pose would be sensible only if the Iranians hadn't double-tapped the commercial airliner.

Reading through this thread a bit late, I was kinda wondering if someone would mention that. It is an important point. A lot of FReepers seem to be off their game...

The Iranians also claimed the flight was approaching a sensitive military center of the Iran Revolutionary Guard Corps (true, but why the bleep were ANY flights being directed to do so in the 1st place?) and at altitude and in form of a hostile flight (altitude - maybe, but utter BS on the form and radar signature!).

134 posted on 01/11/2020 2:44:05 AM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: Eddie01
A sad day. Preliminary conclusions of internal investigation by Armed Forces:

Human error at time of crisis caused by US adventurism led to disaster

______________

Sounds like the repulsive reprehensible CA representative Jackie Speier.

135 posted on 01/11/2020 2:57:34 AM PST by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)
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136 posted on 01/11/2020 3:27:20 AM PST by 4Liberty (Impeached, for a retort about Rosie's unhealthy weight. Why not for Obama's "Special Olympics" slur?)
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To: Eddie01
There was an aviation expert and accident investigator on Tucker Carlson's program a couple of nights ago.

Some of his points:

- The Iranians at first said they examined the Black Box and noted "mechanical failure", which is a complete joke because the Iranians don't even possess the know-how and ability to even open the devices

- He called the Iranians a bunch of liars and crazy people. "These are not normal people."

- No airlines, air cargo, or charter company will fly out of Iran now. NONE! This is the real reason they had to admit to shooting it down.


137 posted on 01/11/2020 3:40:21 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SCKnight
Yes. TWA flight 800 comes to mind.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/12/the_fbi_manufactured_302s_before_mueller.html

"This is not the first time that the FBI -- or some entity with power over the FBI -- has manufactured a 302 in a politically sensitive case. In the case of TWA Flight 800, the 747 destroyed off the coast of Long Island in July 1996, the FBI and/or CIA manufactured second interviews with the three most critical eyewitnesses."


138 posted on 01/11/2020 3:49:06 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Eddie01

Old HAWK missile systems we sold the Shah could acquire, track, and shoot down aircraft without human action, beyond keeping fuel in the generators. Lots of nervous airline pilots flying into and out of El Paso airport in the 70s and 80s.


139 posted on 01/11/2020 3:56:06 AM PST by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: Eddie01

Even Iran did not go as far as the Democrats in attributing this tragedy to the Great Satan. Iran needs to get a clue and hire the Congressional Democrats as their PR flaks in this incident to blame the incident on Trump.


140 posted on 01/11/2020 4:14:53 AM PST by chuckee
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