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Rep. Jeff Van Drew, anti-impeachment Democrat, expected to switch parties after Trump meeting
Washington Compost ^ | 12/14/2009 | Washington Compost

Posted on 12/14/2019 12:20:47 PM PST by TexasGurl24

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To: Alberta's Child

Thanks for that story. It’s only hearsay, but very interesting hearsay, and not that hard to believe, considering the general level of insanity on the Left.


121 posted on 12/14/2019 4:00:19 PM PST by Nothingburger
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To: Nothingburger

Something else to keep in mind here is that New Jersey is almost certainly going to lose a House seat after the 2020 census. The Democrats have tight control of the state legislature, so I could see them drawing this district out of existence in a couple of years anyway.


122 posted on 12/14/2019 4:04:39 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: Galactic Overlord-In-Chief; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; LS; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; campaignPete R-CT; ..

Hmmm so maybe that NJ freeper that goes on about “conservative” democrats had a point about this one? LOL.

We have a little ways to go to get back the majority and I don’t see any world beaters currently in the GOP primary, I say welcome him and give him a pass (THIS time). This is the last thing the democrats wanted. There is talk that he has an internal poll showing him doing badly in the rat primary because of his impeachment stance.

He indeed did not vote for Pelsoi though I didn’t want to mention that before in case some idiot thought he might be worth supporting as a rat.

Collin Peterson (MN) did vote for Pelosi, every time she’s won in case any freeper considers praising him after he votes no.


123 posted on 12/14/2019 4:15:40 PM PST by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Trump carried Cape May, Salem, and Gloucester Counties. Cumberland and Atlantic were 51/52 - 45 for Hillary.


124 posted on 12/14/2019 4:19:01 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Schiff just got his ass BOOED at an Armenian Genocide event here in LA..Trump supporters showed up and had signs saying DONT IMPEACH


125 posted on 12/14/2019 4:40:36 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Alberta's Child

I’ll believe it when I see it..I trust Kim Jong Un over a Democrat anyday


126 posted on 12/14/2019 4:45:42 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: fieldmarshaldj

From what I hear the republican running is a Never Trumper, so there’s that......


127 posted on 12/14/2019 4:47:49 PM PST by McGavin999 (“Look into it” does not mean dig up dirt, it means find the truth)
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To: hardspunned
The squish will probably switch back after Trump helps him win.

I'm not entirely sure how this is going to play out.

But for those of us supportive of a Walk Away movement, I'm inclined not to crap on someone who does just that.

Should we welcome him to the Party? Sure. Should we put him in Leadership? No, not until we see how it plays out.

Should we hold him up as a so-called "moderate" who just can't deal with the lunacy of the far-left Pelosi Democrat Party? And encourage others in our daily lives to follow his example? You bet.

128 posted on 12/14/2019 4:50:10 PM PST by TontoKowalski (You can call me "Dick.")
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To: wastoute

When politicians start switching parties that is a big deal. They are smart enough to see the handwriting on the wall.<<—

Yup!...but it begs the question..What are your “core values” ...Have you seen the light or just want to get elected again?

THAT IS THE QUESTION!!


129 posted on 12/14/2019 4:59:14 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: McGavin999

Which one ? There’s 3 declared and 1 speculative candidate.

Brian Fitzherbert (R) - Defense Contractor Project Manager, Engineer & ‘18 Candidate

Bob Patterson (R) - Trade Association Executive, Ex-Gubernatorial Aide & ‘16 Nominee in CD-1

David Richter (R) - Venture Capitalist, Ex-Construction Executive & Attorney

(speculative) Seth Grossman (R) - Ex-Atlantic Co Freeholder, Ex-City Councilman, ‘18 Nominee & ‘13 Gov Candidate


130 posted on 12/14/2019 5:33:33 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Dear Mr. Kotter, #Epsteindidntkillhimself - Signed, Epstein's Mother)
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To: markoman

a lot of us have been trying to figure that out...

if you do, pls let me know


131 posted on 12/14/2019 5:34:42 PM PST by Chode (Send bachelors and come heavily armed.)
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To: TexasGurl24

That is all we need is another wishy washy RINO.


132 posted on 12/14/2019 5:46:20 PM PST by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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To: TexasGurl24

Probably be the only way any of these people get elected again and become RINO red pills for the next election


133 posted on 12/14/2019 6:17:05 PM PST by Karliner (Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28 Isa 17 "This is the end of the beginning" W Churchill)
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To: TexasGurl24

Sounds like Dem at heart Van Drew has introduced the concept of party fluid to assure his survival and keep his paycheck.
If he was not in a Trump district he would be voting Dem party line and remain a Dem. But given the choice of having a Dem voting Dem party line in my district or a Dem ‘ho converting to Republican to keep his paycheck, I will always take the ‘ho
but just not trust him much.


134 posted on 12/14/2019 6:28:25 PM PST by chuckee
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To: TexasGurl24

Without Trump’s approval a switch to Republican most likely wouldn’t work. I wish Mitt Romney would go ahead and switch to Democrat.


135 posted on 12/14/2019 6:55:35 PM PST by TBall
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To: TexasGurl24

136 posted on 12/14/2019 6:56:44 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: TBall

He’s much more destructive remaining a fake Republican. That’s why he stays as one.


137 posted on 12/14/2019 7:03:54 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Dear Mr. Kotter, #Epsteindidntkillhimself - Signed, Epstein's Mother)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief; BillyBoy; LS; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; campaignPete R-CT
I'm seeing conflicting information about the existing GOP field in the race for Van Drew's seat. On another thread, they claimed the GOP frontrunner for the nomination is a "friend of the Bidens" and has been very critical of Trump in the past. In that case, it makes it sound its better to hold our nose for Van Drew and hope for the best.

But when I went to Bob Patterson, Brian Fitzherbert, and David Richter's websites (not sure which of them is considered the "leading" Republican challenger), they all seem to be significantly to the right of Van Drew and solid conservatives who want to work with the President. Bob Patterson says he was honored to work in the Trump administration, Brian Fitzherbert says President Trump has "done an excellent job of kick-starting our national economy", and David Richter says he's a lifelong Republican who wants to go to Washington to help Trump drain the swamp there.

For comparison:

https://bobpattersonforcongress.com/
https://www.fitzherbertforcongress.com/
https://richter2020.com/

If all three of them stay in the race, its possible they will ironically help Van Drew get the GOP nomination by splitting the anti-incumbent vote.

Van Drew is a traditional reliable RAT vote on a lot of issues (for example, he has always gloated about being strongly pro-abortion). It will be interesting to see if he flip-flops on those issues overnight to market himself in a Republican primary.

Even in a worse case scenario, I agree that Van Drew seems to be an improvement over the RINOish Frank LoBiondo. I always take stuff like that into account, whether the party switcher is an improvement over the previous occupant. LIEberman was awful but the "Republican" he defeated to win his seat was so bad a lot of Republicans cheered on Lieberman. I never warmed to Zig Zag Zell Miller because even on his best day of stabbing "his" party in the back, he was still significantly LESS conservative than the Republican he replaced, Paul Coverdell. It would have been different if Zell Miller had been appointed to replace an odious RAT Senator like Chuck Schumer. If that had been the case, I'd be cheering him on, too.

Oh, and in a final vote, Van Drew switching essentially cancels out that goofball Justin Amash leaving. The difference is that Van Drew is voting the way his constituents want. Amash represents a safe Republican district that voted for Trump and used to be held by Vern Ehlers, so he just voting the way Nancy Pelosi wants in spite of his constituents. I hope that turd gets flushed in the next election cycle.

138 posted on 12/14/2019 7:36:51 PM PST by BillyBoy (States rights is NOT a suicide pact)
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To: Parley Baer

He knows which side is going to win this sh*tshow.

And it ain’t his current party.


139 posted on 12/14/2019 7:53:53 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: crz
From how and what he spoke Van Drew, who also says he's Conservative, sounds like a man who knows his own mind on what he thinks is right or wrong and unafraid to be his own man....doesn't sound like he one who yields to pressure. It's pretty gutsy to say he won't vote for Impeachment in the political climate there is now.
140 posted on 12/14/2019 8:28:05 PM PST by caww
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