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Could Tax Increases Speed Up the Economy? Democrats Say Yes
New York Times ^ | December 5, 2019 | Jim Tankersley

Posted on 12/09/2019 10:55:26 AM PST by karpov

WASHINGTON — Elizabeth Warren is leading a liberal rebellion against a long-held economic view that large tax increases slow economic growth, trying to upend Democratic policymaking in the way supply-side conservatives changed Republican orthodoxy four decades ago.

Generations of economists, across much of the ideological spectrum, have long held that higher taxes reduce investment, slowing economic growth. That drag, the consensus held, would offset the benefits to growth from increased government spending in areas like education.

Ms. Warren and other leading Democrats say the opposite. The senator from Massachusetts, who is a leading candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, contends that her plans to tax the rich and spend the revenue to lift the poor and the middle class would accelerate economic growth, not impede it. Other Democratic candidates are making similar claims about their tax-and-spend proposals. Some liberal economists go further and say that simply taxing the rich would help growth no matter what the government did with the money.

Democrats in the past, including the party’s 2016 nominee, Hillary Clinton, have argued that a more modest combination of tax increases and spending programs would expand the economy. But no Democratic nominee before Ms. Warren had ever proposed so many new taxes and spending programs, and leaned so heavily into the argument that they would be, in economist parlance, pro-growth.

That argument tries to reframe a classic debate about the economic “pie” in the United States by suggesting there is no trade-off between increasing the size of the pie and dividing the slices more equitably among all Americans.

Ms. Warren has proposed nearly $3 trillion a year in new taxes on businesses and high-earners, largely focused on billionaires but sometimes hitting Americans who earn $250,000 and above per year. The taxes would fund wide-reaching new government spending

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bs; democrats; idiots; morons; stupidity; taxes; warren
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Warren wants to punish the "rich" because she and many of her supporters are motivated by envy. Her web site advertises a Billionaire Tears Mug. Any of her economic justifications are rationalizations after the fact.
1 posted on 12/09/2019 10:55:26 AM PST by karpov
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To: karpov

Hasn’t worked before


2 posted on 12/09/2019 10:56:49 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Recall that unqualified Hillary Clinton sat on the board of Wal-Mart when Bill Clinton was governor)
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To: karpov

Al Gore Junior said that $250,000 makes you a millionaire because in 4 years that is a million dollars


3 posted on 12/09/2019 10:57:49 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Recall that unqualified Hillary Clinton sat on the board of Wal-Mart when Bill Clinton was governor)
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To: karpov

Expecting tax increases to speed up the economy is like lighting fire to a frame home with expectations that it will improve it and turn it into a brick structure.


4 posted on 12/09/2019 10:57:52 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: karpov

5 posted on 12/09/2019 10:58:07 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Lincoln: "The Founders did not make America racist or slaver. They inherited it, that way!")
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To: karpov

If money is so evil, why do they always want more of it?......................


6 posted on 12/09/2019 10:58:35 AM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain............)
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To: Grampa Dave

Excellent.


7 posted on 12/09/2019 10:59:10 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: karpov

Does Warren not understand that people will always invest their money more competently than will government?


8 posted on 12/09/2019 10:59:11 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: karpov

And the devil lies again.


9 posted on 12/09/2019 10:59:39 AM PST by conservativepoet
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To: a fool in paradise

We have better democrats, now.


10 posted on 12/09/2019 11:00:35 AM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: karpov

The headline alone demonstrates stupidity gone to seed! Never in history has a tax increase ever sped up an economy! How can anyone imagine making anything healthier, by choking it?!


11 posted on 12/09/2019 11:00:47 AM PST by Tucker39 ("It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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“Let the money stay in the rich and it will just sit around gathering interest in a trust fund, yadda yadda.

Spread it around the poor and they’ll spend it on things they need, stimulating the economy, yadda yadda.”

Nothing new year. The Left has been peddling that same old broken record for decades.


12 posted on 12/09/2019 11:00:53 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: a fool in paradise

And 50k a year makes you a millionaire in 20 years.... So you are a millionaire...


13 posted on 12/09/2019 11:01:00 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: karpov

I think the reasoning is along the lines of, “We need (illegal) immigrants to boost the economy,” but we need the tax funds to pay for their welfare and educational benefits.

Riiiiight.


14 posted on 12/09/2019 11:01:48 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: karpov

Do they have any historic examples to prove their theory? There are many of them to prove the opposite!


15 posted on 12/09/2019 11:01:53 AM PST by Real Cynic No More (Make America Great. Prosecute Dems who break the law!)
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You know what else would live up poor people and the middle class? Put a moritorium on immigration, deport the illegals and keep the fed gov out of the economy... and watch what would happen to labor rates ... as if by magic.


16 posted on 12/09/2019 11:02:05 AM PST by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: a fool in paradise

> Hasn’t worked before. <

Yep. But remember that old socialist line: This time it will be different.

Now here’s the thing. “Different” there can mean “different, and worse”.


17 posted on 12/09/2019 11:02:52 AM PST by Leaning Right ( I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Red Badger
"If money is so evil, why do they always want more of it?.................."

Your comment stands on it own.

18 posted on 12/09/2019 11:03:12 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (If the Trump Administration doesn't prosecute the coup plotters he loses the election in 2020)
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To: karpov
The more people are taxed, the less money they have.

The less money they have, the less they can spend and the less they can invest.

Whoever then claims that more taxes taken by the government, the worse the economy gets!

This is simple math, that even a 6 year old can understand;but obviously, lefty adults are incapable of understanding.

19 posted on 12/09/2019 11:03:45 AM PST by nopardons
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To: karpov

Right we can reduce smoking by raising taxes on tobacco but taxing income will increase economic activity?

A person has to be totally brain dead to be a member of the current Democrat Fascist Party


20 posted on 12/09/2019 11:04:38 AM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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