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Posted on 12/09/2019 6:08:59 AM PST by janetjanet998

I am not sure of the time of the release..it is 9 am now....there was some talk last night on twitter that there will be a short press conference in the morning but the report won't be made public until the afternoon....but take that info with a grain of salt


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 20191209; bringsdownthehouse; christophersteele; dojigreport; horowitz; horowitzreport; ig; ighorowitz; inspectorgeneral; mi6; pain; painiscoming; steeledossier; trumprussia; trusttheplan
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To: Cboldt

True. I’m not going to say that Horowitz hasn’t been disappointing. Just trying to point out that it’s not an exoneration. I stick by my punting analogy. Horowitz outlines lots of misconduct but declines to draw conclusions on what motivated them. And since his access to evidence is limited, his reticence on this point is anything but an exoneration. The decision to prosecute has always rested with Durham and Barr and they’ve already weighed in on their disagreement with Horowitz on this point.


301 posted on 12/09/2019 2:26:03 PM PST by mbrfl ( KAGA - Keep America Great Always)
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To: mbrfl
-- Just trying to point out that it's not an exoneration. --

It's whatever the person spinning it says it is. Comey, Chris Wallace, all of CNN, the DEMs, to a tee, all assert this report is a flat out exoneration. They cite summariy sentences and removes the "qualifying" words so that "no direct evidence" becomes "no evidence."

Of course the IG is going to cover for the agency . That is the prime function of IG.

Horowitz is creative too. If there is no policy directly on the point, for example, no policy on handling presidential campaigns, then find no policy violation. Voila - exoneration.

Put it a little bit of carelessness and slop so Congress can have hearings and pretend a fix - it's all good. Taxpayers keep paying for the abuse.

302 posted on 12/09/2019 2:37:52 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Boogieman
An indictment for a case...It’s very easy to make assertions...This was purely political grandstanding...that’s ludicrous on its face...

I take it that's a "NO! I did not read it

With a side helping of "and I will not do so now at your urging, either

OK, suit yourself.

It seems way too specific to just be a bunch of conjecture dreamed up by the investigating agents and DOJ attorneys.

For instance:

12. Defendant IVAN SERGEYEVICH YERMAKOV (Ермаков Иван Сергеевич) was a Russian military officer assigned to ANTONOV’s department within Unit 26165. Since in or around 2010, YERMAKOV used various online personas, including “Kate S. Milton,” “James McMorgans,” and “Karen W. Millen,” to conduct hacking operations on behalf of Unit 26165. In or around March 2016, YERMAKOV participated in hacking at least two email accounts from which campaign-related documents were released through DCLeaks. In or around May 2016, YERMAKOV also participated in hacking the DNC email server and stealing DNC emails that were later released through Organization 1


303 posted on 12/09/2019 2:47:45 PM PST by Jack Black
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b. Starting on or about March 19, 2016, LUKASHEV and his co-conspirators sent spearphishing emails to the personal accounts of other individuals affiliated with the Clinton Campaign, including its campaign manager and a senior foreign policy advisor. On or about March 25, 2016, LUKASHEV used the same john356gh account to mask additional links included in spearphishing emails sent to numerous individuals affiliated with the Clinton Campaign, including Victims 1 and 2. LUKASHEV sent these emails from the Russia-based email account hi.mymail@yandex.com that he spoofed to appear to be from Google.

c. On or about March 28, 2016, YERMAKOV researched the names of Victims 1 and 2 and their association with Clinton on various social media sites. Through their spearphishing operations, LUKASHEV, YERMAKOV, and their co-conspirators successfully stole email credentials and thousands of emails from numerous individuals affiliated with the Clinton Campaign. Many of these stolen emails, including those from Victims 1 and 2, were later released by the Conspirators through DCLeaks.

d. On or about April 6, 2016, the Conspirators created an email account in the name (with a one-letter deviation from the actual spelling) of a known member of the Clinton Campaign. The Conspirators then used that account to send spearphishing emails to the work accounts of more than thirty different Clinton Campaign< employees.

In the spearphishing emails, LUKASHEV and his co-conspirators embedded a link purporting to direct the recipient to a document titled “hillaryclinton-favorable-rating.xlsx.” In fact, this link directed the recipients’ computers to a GRU-created website. 22. The Conspirators spearphished individuals affiliated with the Clinton Campaign throughout the summer of 2016. For example, on or about July 27, 2016, the Conspirators

attempted after hours to spearphish for the first time email accounts at a domain hosted by a thirdparty provider and used by Clinton’s personal office. At or around the same time, they also targeted seventy-six email addresses at the domain for the Clinton Campaign.


304 posted on 12/09/2019 2:53:28 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: Pollard

Perfectly said by Molly. When it comes to government they will always circle the wagons and protect their own. Protecting the institution is always their ultimate goal instead of candidly exposing corruption and malfeaance.

Corruption reigns in our government bureaucracy, mostly due to the tyranny of leftist Marxists, partisanship of the MSM, and wishful tyranny of PC police.

We must vehemently stand for truth and our rights, and stand against all (or their attempts) to take them.


305 posted on 12/09/2019 2:56:46 PM PST by apoliticalone (Without freedom of speech we have no democracy and will lose all our freedoms.)
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To: Cboldt

I agree. It’s a mixed bag. There are things in there that both sides can seize upon. Definitely not an exoneration. But not a slam dunk for our side either. That will have to wait for Barr/Durham.


306 posted on 12/09/2019 2:57:35 PM PST by mbrfl ( KAGA - Keep America Great Always)
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To: apoliticalone

All the attacks on our President have been made up stuff and shifty sliding and all I can take from any of it is that the liberal demoRats will do anything because the swamp is all connected and they protect themselves.
If all this mess was being directed toward HC there would be large and loud protesters surrounding the Capital building.

Where is the crowd to stand up for our Republican President duly elected by the people? Why does he have to fight this battle alone? It breaks my heart that I’m too old and feeble to go and stand for him. I want to see the real people there to stand with him. Think of the crowds that the pro-life movement turns out. Think of the millions of people who have traveled miles and miles to attend his rallies. Why can’t the people get to D.C. and put the fear of God in the enemies of our country?


307 posted on 12/09/2019 3:09:10 PM PST by WVNan
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To: Jack Black

I take it that’s a “NO! I did not read it”

I guess you can take it however you want, but yes I did read it.

“It seems way too specific to just be a bunch of conjecture dreamed up by the investigating agents and DOJ attorneys.”

Yeah, the Internet Research Agency indictment “seems specific” too, until you read the relevant magazine article expose on them long before Mueller got started and realize that literally everything in the indictment was pulled from that article.

The fact is, there is no actual evidence in the indictment. We have no idea what the basis for any of these assertions is. We will never see any of that evidence in a court of law either (if it ever existed), because:

a) None of these Russians are ever going to set foot in our jurisdiction now, and obviously Mueller knew that.
b) Even if they did somehow get apprehended, any actual intelligence sources that were used to prepare this indictment would be classified, which would make discovery in a criminal court a nightmare, and the case would likely be dropped.

Now we already know Mueller is a hack who spent years pursuing a politically motivated witch hunt. We also know he was not above using every dirty trick in the book to try to produce results for whoever he was really working for. Why should I believe that he wouldn’t just put a bunch of unverified BS into an indictment that he knew very well he would never have to produce the evidence for in court?

There is certainly ample reason to question the factual nature of many things Mueller asserts, just based on the publicly available facts about the case.


308 posted on 12/09/2019 3:37:54 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

anyone else notice that the actual day of the of the FISA court dates are redacted . Octover XX or April XX

why?


309 posted on 12/09/2019 4:05:25 PM PST by janetjanet998
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To: janetjanet998
Further, the revelations may lead Horowitz to spin off on a new investigation into whether or not the FBI is following its Woods procedure as required. <<<——

LOL....Howowitz is DONE!!...No bias!...Just shoddy work..dock them ALL 2 hours!..they meant well....just didn't follow PROCEDURE!

IG’s are Deep State Foxes guarding the Henhouse’s...

No need to ruin careers over Treason....*spit*

310 posted on 12/09/2019 5:12:32 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: janetjanet998
Trump: IG Report Shows FBI ‘Fabricated Evidence,’ Tried to ‘Overthrow’ Him


311 posted on 12/09/2019 5:16:33 PM PST by Brown Deer (America First!)
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To: Jane Long
What triggers the FISA court into action? <<—

The same thing that triggers All criminal conspirators...the Threat of JAIL!...but don't count on that happening....More Foxes guarding the Hen-house's....The Big Alphabet Hen-house's...

312 posted on 12/09/2019 5:20:51 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: mbrfl

To find the documentary evidence will likely require authority that Horowitz doesn’t possess - which Durham does.


That evidence is long destroyed. Guaranteed. There will be no smoking gun here.


313 posted on 12/09/2019 5:25:27 PM PST by lodi90
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To: janetjanet998

Last page of report
https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf

To report allegations of waste, fraud, abuse, or misconduct regarding DOJ
programs, employees, contractors, grants, or contracts please visit or call the
DOJ OIG Hotline at oiq.justice.qov/hotline or (800) 869-4499.

oiq.justice.qov/hotline

The g s
change to q s
when you cut and paste oig.justice.gov/hotline
from the official report.

hahahahaha

On the report they look like g

Paste on Word and change the font to anything.
They all stay as Qs


314 posted on 12/09/2019 5:43:55 PM PST by missthethunder
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To: janetjanet998

Todays IG report
on the link https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf.
Search for “Comey” — 0 hits.
Search for “Corney” — 149 hits.


315 posted on 12/09/2019 5:45:01 PM PST by missthethunder
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To: Erik Latranyi
The FBI leadership needs to be terminated and have their pensions revoked, including prohibition of working for any federal gov’t agency. <<

Wouldn't that be cruel and unusual punishment for the simple crime of TREASON?....../s

316 posted on 12/09/2019 5:50:00 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: mbrfl

I have said from day one that several special prosecutors or counsels needed to be appointed as this IG report is simply sweeping everything under the carpet. A disgrace.


317 posted on 12/09/2019 6:29:22 PM PST by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: janetjanet998

So happy to see the report absolves Charlie Manson of any wrong doing. So he was locked up for years for crimes he didn’t commit.


318 posted on 12/09/2019 6:41:08 PM PST by Portcall24
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To: janetjanet998

Just like Mueller knew Trump was innocent in the first few days, but kept digging and wasting our money, so did the FBI after they got a foreign tip.

They knew there was no evidence to support the collusion case....they ignored exculpatory evidence....they knew the core of their case (Steele Dossier) was falling apart, but kept right on renewing FISA warrants.


319 posted on 12/09/2019 10:18:11 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-group)
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To: janetjanet998

Sessions recused himself from the Russia probe because he was part of Trump’s campaign.

Bruce Ohr did not recuse himself even though his wife worked for Fusion GPS, funded by the Clinton Campaign.

Andrew McCabe’s did not recuse himself even though her Virginia State Senate campaign was funded by the Clintons.


320 posted on 12/09/2019 10:30:28 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-group)
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