Posted on 12/04/2019 5:00:05 AM PST by Texas Fossil
Yes, but how was it not challenged?
How is Adam Shiff entitled to these records?
Then would this not open the door and set precedent for Trump or the Republicans to do the exact same with Schiff and crew? Or are we going to be self “moral” to a fault again? I would think the “equal force” clause would apply and be justified in this battle.
Can you clarify “Mick Mulvaney in on this action very early”?
Thanks!
No worries. Bagpipe Bill is on the case, no doubt.
“How is Adam Shiff entitled to these records?”
That is my question also, and not even include the Republican minority on the same committee about the subpoenas?
Something is absolutely legally wrong about this situation. It is not a court of law or a trial, and a judge did not approve these subpoenas, and they are not a law enforcement agency which would have to still secure a warrant from a judge.
There are almost no peaceful resolutions available.
How much is this costing the American Taxpayer?
Maybe an administrative subpoena?
“An administrative subpoena is a compulsory request for documents — such as phone, Internet and other records — or testimony issued by an executive branch agency. Unlike traditional grand jury subpoenas, they do not require prior approval from a court or other judicial entity.
The recipient can file a motion in federal court to throw out the subpoena, but the standard for review is highly deferential to the government. Basically, the agency only has to show that the information sought is necessary for the performance of the agency’s official duties.”
Then would this not open the door and set precedent for Trump or the Republicans to do the exact same with Schiff and crew? Or are we going to be self “moral” to a fault again? I would think the “equal force” clause would apply and be justified in this battle.
Don’t hold your breath waiting for GOP action. Tom Cotton sent a stern letter to the IC IG on October 6, he promptly ignored it and Cotton has not publicly followed up TWO MONTHS later. Then they is Lyin’ Lindsay Graham 2.0, etc., etc. I could go on but you should get the point.
I think people assumed Mulvaney had withheld the funds from Ukraine based on directives from Giuliani, but with the heavy April contacts between him and Rudy, it appears he was part of the plan in the first place. It may have been his idea.
“How much is this costing the American Taxpayer?”
And that is the primary concern of course, but not enough are hollering about this aspect as they should be. I wish they could be personally held liable for these costs if they fail, this would deter much of this crap.
Yes, I know. They completely ignore the wishes of those they were hired to represent.
Where is the MSM outrage?
They are complicit with the ComDem Liars.
Follow the money.
Precedent? Yes.
Impeachment Motivations Part 2 – Hiding Links to Corruption
https://uncoverdc.com/2019/12/02/impeachment-motivations-part-2-hiding-links-to-corruption/
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If this kind of stuff is not stopped, it will continue, and it will get worse.
There is nothing illegal about getting cell phone records like this. In fact, if you look carefully at the fine print in your cell phone contract you'll see that you don't even own your phone records.
This is important because it means your phone records -- meaning just the details of which numbers you called, when you called them, the duration of the call, your location when you made the call, etc. -- are not necessarily protected under the Fourth Amendment.
“An administrative subpoena is a compulsory request for documents — such as phone, Internet and other records — or testimony issued by an executive branch agency. Unlike traditional grand jury subpoenas, they do not require prior approval from a court or other judicial entity.”
That is far too much power they have been given there. There are no checks in place then to protect basic due process.
Hmm, that is interesting, but did they not acquire Guilianni’s records?
Those I would think would be problematic if they contain calls to his client. But maybe I’m wrong.
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