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How America Ends A tectonic demographic shift is under way. Can the country hold together?
The Atlantic ^ | Dec 2019

Posted on 11/12/2019 10:22:24 AM PST by Altura Ct.

Democracy depends on the consent of the losers. For most of the 20th century, parties and candidates in the United States have competed in elections with the understanding that electoral defeats are neither permanent nor intolerable. The losers could accept the result, adjust their ideas and coalitions, and move on to fight in the next election. Ideas and policies would be contested, sometimes viciously, but however heated the rhetoric got, defeat was not generally equated with political annihilation. The stakes could feel high, but rarely existential. In recent years, however, beginning before the election of Donald Trump and accelerating since, that has changed.

Our radical Democrat opponents are driven by hatred, prejudice, and rage,” Trump told the crowd at his reelection kickoff event in Orlando in June. “They want to destroy you and they want to destroy our country as we know it.” This is the core of the president’s pitch to his supporters: He is all that stands between them and the abyss.

In October, with the specter of impeachment looming, he fumed on Twitter, “What is taking place is not an impeachment, it is a COUP, intended to take away the Power of the People, their VOTE, their Freedoms, their Second Amendment, Religion, Military, Border Wall, and their God-given rights as a Citizen of The United States of America!” For good measure, he also quoted a supporter’s dark prediction that impeachment “will cause a Civil War like fracture in this Nation from which our Country will never heal.”

Trump’s apocalyptic rhetoric matches the tenor of the times. The body politic is more fractious than at any time in recent memory...

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: demographics; illegalsinvasion; immigration; migration; sorelosers; trends
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To: Regulator
By voting for r’s and d’s. Who have deemed you only a commodity for the economy and political power.
21 posted on 11/12/2019 11:01:30 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: laplata

This is why my hard cut off date for starting SS distribution is while Trump is still in office.


22 posted on 11/12/2019 11:01:46 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: cuban leaf

the same was said during every election of my lifetime, and they were all true.

Every election is a game changer.


23 posted on 11/12/2019 11:12:21 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: laplata

“If they ever can, they’ll go full Stalin/Hitler on our asses. This coup business will look like child’s play.”

See my tag line.

L


24 posted on 11/12/2019 11:12:54 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: cuban leaf

That’s smart.

But the bastards could selectively hack into personal accounts and really screw people over.


25 posted on 11/12/2019 11:15:59 AM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Lurker

Your tag line is exactly right.

I see no possibility of a peaceful solution.


26 posted on 11/12/2019 11:18:07 AM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Altura Ct.

The media is pushing change by being hard left. It’s propaganda more than anything that has produced change. Yes demographics play a lot into it. But without deep state controlling the media even that wouldn’t be enough. It’s big money Republicans and dems who are pushing the change. 2 rotten parties that have both gleefully presided over change. All in the name of greed.


27 posted on 11/12/2019 11:21:07 AM PST by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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To: Altura Ct.

What country?

The Left let in every indigent on the planet! Of course it won’t last.


28 posted on 11/12/2019 11:23:09 AM PST by The Toll
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To: laplata

“The country will never be united again.”

I’m afraid you’re probably right.


29 posted on 11/12/2019 11:26:34 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: laplata

I hear you.


30 posted on 11/12/2019 11:27:42 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: cuban leaf

“This is why my hard cut off date for starting SS distribution is while Trump is still in office.”

I’m 68 so I’m already collecting SS. My wife is 62 and she has an appointment with SS next week to start taking SS.


31 posted on 11/12/2019 11:29:27 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Antoninus

I’ve read this sh* since 2006 before obamatard won. Like the white guys in Hollywood that I spoke with recently..”who’s the president? Trump. Whites arent going anywhere..”.

And these producers are high up in the studio food chain.


32 posted on 11/12/2019 11:32:05 AM PST by max americana (Fired ONE libtard at work at every election since 2008 because I enjoy it. I hope every lib die.)
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To: Altura Ct.

It will be up to God. I don’t worry about such mundane issues.


33 posted on 11/12/2019 11:32:34 AM PST by duckman ( Not tired of winning!)
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To: Altura Ct.

“What has caused such rancor? The stresses of a globalizing, postindustrial economy. Growing economic inequality. The hyperbolizing force of social media. Geographic sorting. The demagogic provocations of the president himself.”

Missed the main cause. Our “educators” have spent 4 decades teaching our children that America is a horrible country that should be destroyed.


34 posted on 11/12/2019 11:32:52 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The internet has driven the world mad.)
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To: crz

Yep, I say give the Northeast to Canada, and California to Mexico, and give the Democrats in the rest of the country 90 days to get their affairs in order and move to one or the other.


35 posted on 11/12/2019 11:37:33 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: TexasFreeper2009

the same was said during every election of my lifetime, and they were all true.

Every election is a game changer.


I’m 65 and have been politically active since 1970 (yep, even before I could vote).

I don’t think it’s been like this or even close to it except for two times: 1968 and just before the civil war. In the former case we dodged a bullet. In the latter we didn’t. I think it’s gonna be one of the two in a year from now.


36 posted on 11/12/2019 11:44:42 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: Boogieman
Lets sharpen up your language a little. We need to purge Virginia and all states north and east from the union. They mighr become Canadian but need not. They can become Eurowest. Pennsylvania is not included, only the counties around Philadelphia.

Likewise, the west coast states of California, Oregon and Washington should be purged or perhaps declared territories. statehood will be stripped. Foe all three, counties can apply for readmission to the union.

38 posted on 11/12/2019 11:47:03 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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