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To: LS

Not sure if this is a good thing. They own $1.5 trillion of the US debt, or like 19%. What happen when they say “Pay us, NOW!”


31 posted on 10/06/2019 7:07:57 PM PDT by Bommer (2020 - Vote all incumbent congressmen and senators out! VOTE THE BUMS OUT!!!)
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To: Bommer

I imagine the same thing that was always going to happen: “We don’t have the money. I guess you’ll have to come and get it.”

Then, war.

Of course, I could see Trump working a deal, but it would likely require Congress’ cooperation. That would also mean war.


34 posted on 10/06/2019 7:11:37 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Plans are worthless, but planning is everything. - Dwight Eisenhower, 1957)
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To: Bommer

They can’t.

They have to sell the bonds to someone else. We already sold them under terms.


40 posted on 10/06/2019 7:15:16 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Bommer
Not sure if this is a good thing. They own $1.5 trillion of the US debt, or like 19%. What happen when they say “Pay us, NOW!”

We saw off the branch they're sitting on.

45 posted on 10/06/2019 7:18:32 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Bommer

“What happen when they say “Pay us, NOW!”

Nothing. They hold bonds with defined maturity dates out a decade or so.

L


46 posted on 10/06/2019 7:20:14 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Bommer
They own $1.5 trillion of the US debt, or like 19%. What happen when they say “Pay us, NOW!”
We'd point at them and laugh. China's longterm strategy is to keep the Yuan price-stable against the USD and the way they've done that is to plow billions of those trade surplus dollars into US gubmint debt. That keeps their job growth going up, and prevents slowdowns that would cause their entire scheme to implode. They are and have been rats on a wheel, and Congress has as a consequence no self-control vis a vis the federal deficit. The tariff fight is important to both sides, but much more important, long term, to the Chinese, and they know that ultimately they must lose it. Mitigating our leverage is the big climb in US petroleum production and exports.

47 posted on 10/06/2019 7:21:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Bommer
"Pay us, NOW!"

We just pay them in gold plated tungsten bars we got from someone else.

55 posted on 10/06/2019 7:30:34 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: Bommer

> What happen when they say “Pay us, NOW!”

Say “I’d rather owe it to you than cheat you out of it”


58 posted on 10/06/2019 7:38:07 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Bommer; LS

“They own $1.5 trillion of the US debt, or like 19%. What happen when they say “Pay us, NOW!”

They own about $1.1 trillion of the US debt, or like 5%.

If they try to sell all those treasuries at once, the market will gag, until the Federal Reserve intervenes and buys them (a fraction of the few trillion they bought during the 2008 crisis). So it would essentially be a few days of drama (just in financial circles), followed by an accounting entry on the Fed’s holdings.

China on the other hand, would then be out of hard currency accounts, with which to clear shipments at its ports. Real, essential imports, like oil and gas, could be held up, as is starting to happen in Iran.


65 posted on 10/06/2019 7:53:30 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Bommer

That’s the best part - they can’t. They *HAVE* to wait for the bond to ‘mature’ aka the date the loan comes due. They cannot call it in early. All they can do is sell the bond to someone else, probably at a significant discount... which would then start depressing the market and drop the value of their current holdings further... which might make them have to sell more, etc., etc.


68 posted on 10/06/2019 8:01:16 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Bommer

we just print it and pray they don’t spend it


70 posted on 10/06/2019 8:06:25 PM PDT by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!me t)
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To: Bommer

China can’t accelerate payment on USDebt.

If they want to convert to cash, they can sell their bonds. Plenty of buyers will show up when they do.

The US economy is the best looking horse in the glue factory.


106 posted on 10/07/2019 9:22:49 AM PDT by Go_Raiders (The fact is, we really don't know anything. It's all guesswork and rationalization.)
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