Speaking of hearsay, this is what I've heard from Joe Biden:
WATCH: Joe Biden Brags About Rigging The Ukranian Political System
Posted on 09/30/2019 10:36:02 AM PDT by robowombat
How does a WH aide mistakenly send talking points to democrats. Fire them!!!!
6 weeks in job. Where does trump find these people.???
As part of that counteroffensive strategy, Republican lawmakers have sought to shift the public focus off of Trump and onto Biden... Another GOP tactic has been to portray the Democrats as dead-set on impeachment regardless of what any investigation of the whistleblower’s complaint turns up.
Partisan Media Shills update.
Good one
Speaking of hearsay, this is what I've heard from Joe Biden:
WATCH: Joe Biden Brags About Rigging The Ukranian Political System
Trump should take visiting world leaders to AIRFORCE ONE to talk in person, if he can. No spying there.
True, but DJT has rather deflated the ‘whistleblower’s’ 15 minutes of fame by releasing the text of the phone call.
I received it from my cousin via email earlier today. He lives in Charleston, S.C.
Campaign to oust Trump began before his inauguration.
There was Pelosi’s daughter trying to convince electors to cast their votes in ways other than the voters voted, cast them against Trump.
Before that there was Obama’s spying on Trump, foreign powers enlisted by Obama spying on Trump through Five Eyes, and the use of domestic and foreign operatives to try to frame Trump and his people.
[[[Calling this political operative a whistleblower is a travesty.]]]
Exactly. A political operative/deep state actor under the cover of the whistleblower statute. Notice too how the regs were changed to facilitate this line of attack.
This is so blatant its incredible.
This one is for all the marbles.
Like 0bama’s “girlfriend”. A composite character.
Please stop with this hoax. It’s embarrassing.
When he said that my impression is that he recognized it as a trap and side stepped it. He did that with a lot of things. The definition of “credible” for instance. Also “urgent action”. He dropped plenty of hints the entire thing was bogus and he had thought so from the beginning.
Yes. I am hesitant to stamp a guy with his credentials with a tag I would have applied to intelligence people like Brennan or Clapper.
The intelligence community has been tarred with a broad brush, and deservingly so in some cases, but I keep people like Admiral Rogers forefront in my mind.
He worked for Obama, but...I have never thought for a second that he was on board with all this, and his inquiry into inappropriate access by contractors who exceeded their mandate to access the NSA database indicates to me that the Obama team knew better than to draw him in. They probably saw he was a straight arrow and could not be trusted.
If not for the actions of Adm. Rogers, the scummy traitors behind this might well have succeeded in bringing down a duly elected President. As it was, his actions likely forced the cabal to abandon their mining of the NSA database (Nellie Ohr, anyone?) to provide them with data, and had to resort to getting a FISA warrant which caused them to have to widen things and leave a popcorn trail of activity.
And that same kind of distrust they had for Adm. that was probably somewhat the root of their animus against Gen. Michael Flynn that resulted in him being so aggressively framed. Besides is open, vocal, and strident opposition to the Iran deal, I think they suspected he knew more than they wanted him to about various intelligence and surveillance abuses and didn’t trust him either...hence the framing to shut him up.
Not so with Clapper, Brennan, et al. They were all in. It is my true wish to see them hang. They won’t, but they should.
I don’t want to go that far yet. He has a decent record, I think his hands maty=, but I admit I don’t know much about him, so I want to reserve judgement.
Also, this IS The Hill. They have a vested interest in disheartening conservatives by slanting the story. We should keep that in mind.
I really do believe Barr’s window of opportunity to influence events is closing. If he can’t bring Horowitz or Durham to start arresting coup conspirators that is a very bad sign for things to come.
I think there is some truth in what you wrote, but...rather than use an impeachment proceeding to get the word out, I would prefer that the actual legal instruments created to handle this kind of governmental malfeasance actually be used to attack the cabal.
Standing up an innocent man (who should actually be running the country, not defending himself and getting nothing done) and using him as scaffolding to pile on our evidence of the illegal behavior of those trying to destroy him instead of using the dusty tools of legality that DO exist to pile their own illegal behaviors and lies on top of them seems like a backwards way to do it, in my mind.
I would only approve of allowing the impeachment proceedings to use as a tool to get at his tormenters as a very last resort.
We as a country need to squash this impeachment crap from top to bottom. It needs to exist for real crimes, but to be used selectively by political parties for pure political purposes because they don’t like the way a duly elected president does business will simply destroy our Republic in the end.
I do believe we need to keep our eye on him, but...his outright language when he was made Attorney General can be credited with bringing the Mueller Report fiasco to a final close.
When Barr made the statements he did, there was zero doubt on the part of Mueller and his team that the writing was on the wall. When they heard Barr and saw how he treated the report, they KNEW there would be no support for the report, no obstruction crap that they wanted to use the report to justify...and Barr said publicly, using very specific legal words in a highly public way (words that are dog-whistles to litigators ears) that...it wasn’t going to be supported by the DOJ, and wasn’t going to happen.
I give him credit for that, and it bought him (from me, at least) a little more rope. But you are correct, we need to watch him carefully for signs of conservative unorthodoxy, and there are a few.
At the time I posted that it seemed to me Barr was brought in as an attempt to compromise both sides to end the circus. Our side got an end to the Mueller investigation and their side got immunity for the coup conspirators. IMHO what Barr is doing now is evaluating whether this Impeachment over fiction invalidates the bargain.
Heck, I didn’t see it as giving the cabal immunity...I sure hope not! But I may have missed that undercurrent, I admit.
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