Posted on 09/20/2019 10:53:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
free trade? mutual residency??
All Johnson has to do is NOTHING and the UK will leave the EU automatically on October 31.
The author doesn't understand the meaning of "automatically" either.
I believe he is legally bound to ask for the extension.
I believe every other country in the EU must agree to grant such an extension.
Granting an extension would be pointless unless the EU improves upon the May “deal”, which no sane UK MP would want to vote into law.
I have posted a proposed deal here and e-mailed it to two Conservative MPs.
UK INDEPENDENCE
The UK shall be legally independent of the EU, except via this agreement, and its successors, effective 1 November 2019.
Except as clearly and self-evidently provided by any international treaty in which many non-EU nations and the UK are bound by, the courts of the UK shall be the sole courts having judicial power in the UK and over the governments of the UK, effective 1 November 2019.
ECONOMIC STABILITY PROVISIONS
Proper UK/EU certifications to EU/UK law shall be valid, unless related EU/UK law is changed.
UK/EU products and services shall be treated as per existing rules, unless related EU/UK law is changed.
UK/EU products and services shall not be discriminated against by the EU/UK, without a notice period of at least two years.
UK/EU LEGAL HARMONIZATION
The UK shall have the right but not the duty to adopt and promulgate EU originated rules and laws, in whole or in part, provided it pays an annual sum of 500,000,000 pounds to the EU.
Existing EU law shall continue to be in force in the UK, except as provided by this agreement and legislation, effective no earlier than 1 November 2019, of the government of the UK, in harmony with this agreement.
Existing EU/UK legal decisions shall continue in force in the UK/EU, except as they might/would be in conflict with this agreement.
UK BREXIT LEGISLATION
Governments of the UK may pass Brexit legislation to be effective 1 November 2019, or thereafter, in harmony with this agreement.
RECIPROCAL RIGHT to WORK and PARTICIPATE in ASSOCIATED HEALTH CARE SCHEMES
Current EU citizens may work and live with their nuclear family in the UK, conditioned on full mutual reciprocity for current UK citizens, by EU member nation, as per 1 March 2019 law, until further notice under a national law of the UK or EU member nation, to be bilaterally effective after four years, which shall not be given earlier than 2026.
All such participating foreign EU/UK workers and their legally dependent children living with them shall be able/required to participate in the associated health care schemes to the same extant and on the same basis as resident nationals, unless related EU/UK law is changed.
RESIDENTAL RIGHTS
Each EU/UK citizen and their offspring can continue to reside in, and own, and legally transfer their existing UK/EU property/properties, without undue legal discrimination as to regulation, taxation and tax-supported schooling below the university level, as long as they do so in a lawful manner that is respectful of the social order, which may be clarified by national law.
Begging, intimidating solicitation, rough sleeping, illegal housing overcrowding, tax evasion, repeated/criminal fare evasion, rowdiness and public intoxication may legally be considered disrespectful of the social order.
UK WELFARE for EU CITIZENS
Effective immediately, EU newcomers to the UK shall not be entitled by any UK agreement with the EU to get welfare, such as housing benefits or new student loans.
UK welfare for all EU citizens in the UK, not having UK citizenship, by any UK agreement with the EU, ends 31 December 2019.
EU WELFARE for UK CITIZENS
Effective immediately, UK newcomers to other EU nations shall not be entitled by any EU agreement with the UK to get welfare, such as housing benefits or new student loans.
EU national/regional/local government welfare for UK citizens residing in the EU may be terminated by law effective 1 November 2019, or thereafter.
AGRICULTURAL AID
The provision of agricultural aid with respect to the United Kingdom shall, subject to WTO rules, be a matter of UK legislation and UK funding effective 1 November 2019.
IRISH MATTERS
The customs services of Republic of Ireland and the UK shall collect and forward appropriate customs revenue for items destined for their counterpart’s territory.
Border security along the border of the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland shall be a matter under the control of their national governments, subject to agreements between their national governments.
EUROPEAN HEALTH INSURANCE CARD (EHIC) SCHEME
The EHIC traveler health care cost reimbursement scheme shall continue with respect to UK/EU and their citizens, until six-months notice by either the UK or EU.
EUROPEAN MEDICINES AGENCY
The UK government shall have reasonable budgeting authority over and pay the costs of the European Medicines Agency after 2019 as long as the European Union accepts its existing authority and it is mainly based in the UK.
AIRBUS PROGRAMME
The Airbus programme shall generally be continued along existing lines, insomuch as is reasonable to do so, until further notice by the UK/EU.
UK EU GOVERNMENTAL EMPLOYEES
UK EU governmental employees may be terminated by EU with written proof and may then apply for UK Job Seekers Allowance with that proof.
UK EU governmental retirees shall lose EU government paid benefits effective 1 November 2019 and shall be made eligible for comparable UK government paid retirement benefits, subject to partial/complete harmonization with that of comparable UK governmental retirees, per UK law.
UK EU LEGISLATIVE PARTICIPATION
The UK, its citizens and its legal entities shall not have legislative participation rights or privileges in EU government effective 1 November 2019.
The UK legislative representatives in EU government shall surrender EU government property, including identification badges and keys, to the EU government and vacate EU legislative premises before 1 November 2019.
EU->UK REBATE
There shall be no EU to UK rebate with respect to 2019.
It is my understanding that the “£39 billion” would merely be for a one-year continuation of the status quo.
I am married to a British citizen and we live in Spain. While I had to provide background checks, medical insurance, proof of income and wait months for approval all she had to do was sign a form, get her picture taken and she was a resident. If I wanted to work it would be another set of hoops to jump through. No restrictions for her. I had to start from scratch to get a driving licence. I had to take lessons, pass a written test and a road test given in Spanish only. She just had to exchange her English licence for a Spanish one. I have to buy medical insurance. She gets her medical care billed to the UK and they reimburse Spain. There are a lot more benefits British citizens get that we don’t pay attention to because we are retirees. The British expats are going nuts because they are afraid all of their goodies will go away. Having done all of the things that they are whining about and coming here anyway I don’t see what the problem is. To them it’s the end of the world.
As for an Irish backstop, it’s not needed:
1. The correct VAT payments for new cars sold in Londonderry, Northern Ireland and Dublin, Republic of Ireland, are already being paid. Getting the tariff amounts right should not be difficult for Toyota and other car makers.
2. When a car is registered in the Republic of Ireland, Ireland can check to see if the right tariff has been paid
3. Wireless carriers in the Republic could verify that the right tariffs have been paid on the customers’ Iphones if the Republic’s law so requires.
4. The Northern Ireland/Republic of Ireland border doesn’t have dense population areas on both sides that are near each other.
5. No sane Irish person is going to spend 20 Euros on petrol to save two pounds in tariff costs on cheaper stuff.
6. Northern Irish farmers are going to comply with EU law to ensure their products are saleable in the EU, even if UK law doesn’t require it.
7. UK Parliament will not vote to put its farmers at a disadvantage because the Conservative Party depends on rural voters and because urban Labour Party MPs are pro-EU.
It's a bit more than that. The authority of a British Prime Minister derives only from the House of Commons, and he has no powers other than those granted him by Parliament, which can be withdrawn at any time.
In recent decades there's been an increasing tendency for Prime Ministers to act as if they're Presidents, with executive powers independent of Parliament. Well, if you have a 170+ seat majority like Blair (who was the prime example) you can get away with that for a time. But as May and now Johnson have found, it's not so easy if you have a majority of zero.
The author of this piece is so incredibly ignorant.
1. A mutual residency???? Brexit was about limiting EU immigrants to the UK
2. The 33 billion is about the retirement amounts for Nigel Farage and other British EU functionaries and to complete the projects agreed to as part of the 7 year budget ending 2021.
The author of this piece is so incredibly ignorant.
1. A mutual residency???? Brexit was about limiting EU immigrants to the UK
2. The 33 billion is about the retirement amounts for Nigel Farage and other British EU functionaries and to complete the projects agreed to as part of the 7 year budget ending 2021.
3. And the deal was the withdrawal agreement, making provision for trade.
Correct.
This author is a “senior fellow “??? He seems terribly ignorant about what he writes
He is not “legally “ bound but procedurally bound if he doesn’t get a deal. But there are always loopholes.
And what “improvements” do you want to see?
The UK should propose changes but it isn’t doing that.
What you propose is basically the May deal.
And EU country citizens could never claim welfare unless they worked a certain number of years in the host country.
Next the Irish border. The Republic of Ireland has said IT doesn’t want a border and it will remain part of the EU. So the UK needs to leave northern Ireland in the customs union but de jure part of the UK
I’ve told you many times that is false.
The 33 billion. Yes, it is 33 billion now. This is for
1. Paying Nigel Farage and other British personel their retirement pensions.
2. Projects part of the 7 year budget ending 2021, to which the UK agreed to in 2013.
This is separate from any deal and is the simple closing if accounts irrespective of a deal or no deal
Really? I thought this was correct.
But on reading your post I see I was wrong. Thank you
“I believe he is legally bound to ask for the extension.
I believe every other country in the EU must agree to grant such an extension.”
He can meet the requirement of Parliament by asking for a one day extension. If the EU grants the extension, Britain leaves the EU on November 1. If the EU will not grant the extension, Britain leaves the EU October 31.
“The author is clueless about British law. Parliament can’t force a Prime Minister to do anything.”
“I believe he is legally bound to ask for the extension.”
OK, it can’t be both.....Who’s right?
The legislation requires him to ask for a 3-month extension, and to accept a longer extension if offered by the EU.
haha, ya
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