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Crime fell near pot shops after marijuana was fully legalized, Colorado study shows
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | Sep 15, 2019 | Tom Schuba

Posted on 09/15/2019 11:51:37 AM PDT by NobleFree

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To: TexasGator
Why are you running toward big government and ignoring the Constitution?

In what way?

By replying to a post about limited government and Constitutional bounds with collectivist twaddle about "benefits" and "debits" to "society".

81 posted on 09/15/2019 3:15:49 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: TexasGator

That link has already been posted on this thread - and it’s already been pointed out that the link says:

“Colorado transportation and public safety officials, however, say the rising number of pot-related traffic fatalities cannot be definitively linked to legalized marijuana.

“Positive test results reflected in the NHTSA data do not indicate whether a driver was high at the time of the crash since traces of marijuana use from weeks earlier also can appear as a positive result.”


82 posted on 09/15/2019 3:17:22 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: grania
Like alkies, and the morbidly obese?

Yeah. Insurance should be for catastrophic situations. People who can't afford a lot should be given a low-cost option from a clinic, based on ability to pay.

If that's the solution for those people, it's the solution for pot users - not a ban on that which they misused.

83 posted on 09/15/2019 3:19:32 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

“In 2016, of the 115 drivers in fatal wrecks who tested positive for marijuana use, 71 were found to have Delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana, in their blood, indicating use within hours, according to state data. “


84 posted on 09/15/2019 3:26:05 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: NobleFree

““Colorado transportation and public safety officials, however, say the rising number of pot-related traffic fatalities cannot be definitively linked to legalized marijuana.”

Deaths were going down before and going up AFTER legalization.

I hope you are not trying to say driving after smoking pot is safe?


85 posted on 09/15/2019 3:30:37 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator
"Colorado transportation and public safety officials, however, say the rising number of pot-related traffic fatalities cannot be definitively linked to legalized marijuana.”

Deaths were going down before and going up AFTER legalization.

So you know better than Colorado transportation and public safety officials?

I hope you are not trying to say driving after smoking pot is safe?

No, that's another of your straw men.

86 posted on 09/15/2019 3:33:16 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

“By replying to a post about limited government and Constitutional bounds with collectivist twaddle about “benefits” and “debits” to “society”. “

LOL! The post was about Freepers! I made a statement explaining why Freepers may hold certain opinions!


87 posted on 09/15/2019 3:33:59 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: NobleFree

“So you know better than Colorado transportation and public safety officials? “

Once again you jump the shark on my posts!


88 posted on 09/15/2019 3:35:16 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: NobleFree

Then you agree that driving after smoking pot is unsafe?


89 posted on 09/15/2019 3:38:41 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: NobleFree

““Colorado transportation and public safety officials, however, say the rising number of pot-related traffic fatalities cannot be definitively linked to legalized marijuana.”

I think their has been an increase in ILLEGAL pot use sine legalization.


90 posted on 09/15/2019 3:42:20 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator
“In 2016, of the 115 drivers in fatal wrecks who tested positive for marijuana use, 71 were found to have Delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana, in their blood, indicating use within hours, according to state data. “

'Presumably, these figures came from the "National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS) 2006-2011 and Colorado Department of Transportation 2012-2017," cited in a previous graphic.

'But CDOT's digits, which we shared last month, are completely different. They show that the number of fatalities involving a driver who tested positive for 5 nanograms or more of Delta-9 THC, the highly controversial state limit for cannabis intoxication, actually dropped from 2016 (52, or 13 percent of total drivers involved in fatalities who were drug tested) to 2017 (35, or 8 percent.)

'[...] plenty of other studies contradict the Rocky Mountain High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area's findings, too [...]'

- https://www.westword.com/news/why-law-enforcement-groups-report-about-marijuana-horrors-is-being-ignored-10834610

91 posted on 09/15/2019 3:49:17 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: TexasGator
I think their has been an increase in ILLEGAL pot use sine legalization.

Just like there was an increase in drinking illegal alcohol when Prohibition ended? ROTFL!

92 posted on 09/15/2019 3:50:48 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: TexasGator
Then you agree that driving after smoking pot is unsafe?

There are unsafe levels for both pot and alcohol.

93 posted on 09/15/2019 3:51:53 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

CDOT (your link)

“Marijuana and driving is still a huge problem in Colorado,” Cole maintains. “About 10 percent of our fatalities involve a driver who was at or above the legal limit for active THC, and we need to get that number way down. Any fatality above zero is one fatality too many.”


94 posted on 09/15/2019 3:52:48 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: NobleFree

Buying from your neighbor is cheaper than going to the. pot shop.


95 posted on 09/15/2019 3:57:00 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator
Any fatality above zero is one fatality too many.”

Too many for what - keeping the involved substance legal? That would apply to alcohol too.

96 posted on 09/15/2019 3:58:39 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: TexasGator
Colorado transportation and public safety officials, however, say the rising number of pot-related traffic fatalities cannot be definitively linked to legalized marijuana.

I think their has been an increase in ILLEGAL pot use sine legalization. [...] Buying from your neighbor is cheaper than going to the. pot shop.

Which, if true, proves what?

97 posted on 09/15/2019 4:02:01 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Mr. Blond

It’s because of cash.....given federal stance it’s hard to bank conventionally

Some of these places may have 150,000 or more in cash on hand

I’m pretty familiar with the business in Los Angeles and you’d be foolish not to have security like. Brinks etc


98 posted on 09/15/2019 4:04:01 PM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: NobleFree

From your link. Dont attribute it to me!


99 posted on 09/15/2019 4:11:38 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: NobleFree

“number of fatalities involving a driver who tested positive for 5 nanograms or more of Delta-9 THC, “

Maybe the limit is too high?


100 posted on 09/15/2019 4:13:06 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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