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Crime fell near pot shops after marijuana was fully legalized, Colorado study shows
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | Sep 15, 2019 | Tom Schuba

Posted on 09/15/2019 11:51:37 AM PDT by NobleFree

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1 posted on 09/15/2019 11:51:37 AM PDT by NobleFree
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To: KC_Lion
fyi
2 posted on 09/15/2019 11:52:51 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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“Any time that you can free up police resources from an activity that really is not a crime and is no longer a crime, that’s going to positively affect the police’s ability to do their job across all aspects,” he said.

and not busting people for drug possession is why the crime numbers have improved and for no other reason. the quote is an ignorant statement because those same resources “gained” will be used up dealing with the collateral damage of a bunch of stoners running around doing stupid and dangerous things.


3 posted on 09/15/2019 12:00:23 PM PDT by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual hemlock)
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To: NobleFree

Don’t trust studies much. Traffic accidents are way up though.


4 posted on 09/15/2019 12:05:58 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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not busting people for drug possession is why the crime numbers have improved and for no other reason.

Wrong. "In Denver, researchers found the sharpest decrease in nonviolent crimes, like criminal trespassing, criminal mischief, simple assault and public-order crimes."

5 posted on 09/15/2019 12:07:33 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: mountainlion
Don’t trust studies much. Traffic accidents are way up though.

What's the evidence for accidents being up? (Is it a study? If so, why do you trust it?)

6 posted on 09/15/2019 12:08:40 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

Was the study paid by the pot industry. And notice how narrow their “study” is. Crime decreased near pot shops - what about the rest of the city?


7 posted on 09/15/2019 12:10:57 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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To: NobleFree
which corresponds to roughly a 19 percent decline relative to the average crime rate.

"Beware of averages. The average person has one breast and one testicle."
Dixie Lee Ray

8 posted on 09/15/2019 12:11:02 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: NobleFree

Haven’t seen much crime around our shops, except the MJ shops themselves get robbed regularly and I think a few deaths over the last few years, generally murdered proprietors. Oh, this is in CA.


9 posted on 09/15/2019 12:13:54 PM PDT by umgud
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To: NobleFree

The dispensaries around here are getting more Neiman-Marcusy every day. And there are more than Starbucks.


10 posted on 09/15/2019 12:14:19 PM PDT by Yaelle
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I just love some Freepers, they are all Jeffersonian about keeping their AR-15 and not telling anyone what to do...unless it’s what substances they can put in their own bodies. Then they want to restrict your freedoms in a pious tone, while holding a cold IPA in their hand and smoking a Marlboro. Makes about as much sense as a pro-choice Liberal caring about inner school Black children. You are either for freedom or not. And yes I am all for ALL drugs being legal, it’s a health issue not a legal one. The Founding Fathers grew hemp and cannabis. No I don’t smoke it, but if someone else wants to, who am I to say. This is a loser issue for Republicans, drug criminalization, ...makes about much sense as alcohol, prohibition did in 1919


11 posted on 09/15/2019 12:19:33 PM PDT by pburgh01 (Negan all the MSM)
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Drove past one on Venice yesterday that had 2 guards with bulletproof vests outside. Does that suggest a reduction in crime?


12 posted on 09/15/2019 12:22:53 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: aquila48
Was the study paid by the pot industry.

No, by the Federal Reserve: https://philadelphiafed.org/-/media/research-and-data/publications/working-papers/2017/wp17-19.pdf

And notice how narrow their “study” is. Crime decreased near pot shops - what about the rest of the city?

Some said pot shops would draw crime - this study addressed that idea.

13 posted on 09/15/2019 12:23:52 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: pburgh01
I just love some Freepers, they are all Jeffersonian about keeping their AR-15 and not telling anyone what to do...unless it’s what substances they can put in their own bodies. Then they want to restrict your freedoms in a pious tone, while holding a cold IPA in their hand and smoking a Marlboro.

LOL! That's how you tell the difference between principles and rationalizations.

14 posted on 09/15/2019 12:25:35 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Mr. Blond
Drove past one on Venice yesterday that had 2 guards with bulletproof vests outside. Does that suggest a reduction in crime?

It suggests deterrence of crime. Banks have guards - would you conclude that putting a bank in a neighborhood increases crime?

15 posted on 09/15/2019 12:27:00 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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Don’t forget violence. Ask any cop how often they go to bar brawls/fights....It’s endless, every single night...Alcohol fueled murders, brawls, abuse etc. Ask any cop how many pot users are beating each other senseless. There is just no comparison. Zip~! Same with drunk driving. They kill/injure tens of thousands routinely unlike those who only use pot. Ask those with real experience like the street cops. There is just no comparison to the carnage caused by alcohol. Not even remotely close.


16 posted on 09/15/2019 12:27:40 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Drunken brawls and beatings are a deep-rooted part of our cultural heritage ... or something.
17 posted on 09/15/2019 12:30:03 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: pburgh01

The good gun owner is an asset to society.

The good Stoner is a debit to society.


18 posted on 09/15/2019 12:33:29 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: NobleFree

“In Denver, researchers found the sharpest decrease in nonviolent crimes, like criminal trespassing, criminal mischief, simple assault and public-order crimes.”

And the fact that Denver decriminalized public defacation.


19 posted on 09/15/2019 12:35:52 PM PDT by JoeRed
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To: NobleFree

The banks down the street from that same location don’t have guards. Make of that what you will, just posting observations.


20 posted on 09/15/2019 12:36:16 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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