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Florida Man Who Fatally Shot Black Man During Parking Dispute Found Guilty
Huffpost ^ | 8/26/19 | Hayley Miller

Posted on 08/26/2019 3:49:09 AM PDT by DoodleDawg

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To: SamAdams76
I work in a field where we have to incorporate ADA elements like handicap parking spaces in our site designs, and I think they are ridiculous.

I can’t even remember how many thousands of parking lots I’ve seen with 5 or more HC parking spaces, and I have never once seen one where the HC spaces were even half filled.

61 posted on 08/26/2019 6:47:32 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: ronniesgal

Is this a gym just for handicapped people?


62 posted on 08/26/2019 6:50:23 AM PDT by arthurus (dog-!Hi)
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To: SamAdams76

On handicap looking people. I have a new appreciation for those who may look normal. I had surgery that went wrong and caused me to bleed internally. For the next three months I could barely walk 100 feet without having to rest due to anemia. I looked normal.


63 posted on 08/26/2019 6:54:20 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: cuban leaf

I hear what you are saying but as you stated, even with those empty spaces around you, you still got hassled by a busybody. Speaking for myself, these are the kind of unforced confrontations that I wish to avoid. It’s kind of like going through the express lane at the supermarket with 11 items when it’s 10 or less. While the cashier would never say anything, I’m worried about the old biddy in back of me who has been patiently waiting the entire day to lecture somebody about something!


64 posted on 08/26/2019 7:02:21 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: DoodleDawg

Two people being dumb asses, one of them now dead and the other, appropriately in my view, now going to jail.


65 posted on 08/26/2019 7:05:00 AM PDT by KevinB ("Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." - Charles Darwin)
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To: cuban leaf

Not sure, but I suspect a Police Officer might give you a ticket for being “stopped” in a HC zone, and judge would not accept your explanation.

Better to park in a further spot with a view of the Costco door and pick up wife as she comes out.

Take it for what it is worth.


66 posted on 08/26/2019 7:05:57 AM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: Ikeon

I didn’t say the guy who was shot acted appropriately, but it is clear that the shooter provoked the altercation by yelling at a woman and her children. The law is pretty clear that, while verbal provocation does not justify the use of force, you cannot claim self defense when using force to defend yourself from an attack you verbally provoked, either. As you suggested, both men committed crimes here.

More to the point, I’ve watched that video several times, and there is no evidence in that video that the shooter was facing any threat that justified the use of deadly force. Unless the victim said something that constituted a deadly threat (and it doesn’t sound like there was any evidence that he did), the shooter was plainly guilty of some level of criminal homicide.

I think it requires a rather twisted moral compass to view this as a “win/win.” Shoving someone who is yelling at your kids and their mother may be wrong, but hardly warrants death.


67 posted on 08/26/2019 7:06:05 AM PDT by The Pack Knight
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To: sheana
Now that's what I mean! Even a legitimate user of a handicapped space risks a confrontation from one of those virtue-signalling, busybody do-gooders who think somehow they are being heroes in their small, petty little world. These are the ones that stand behind you at the supermarket express lane, counting the items you lay out on the belt, to see if you go over the stated limit. If you have 11 items when the limit is 10, it will MAKE THEIR DAY to call you out on it.
68 posted on 08/26/2019 7:06:39 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

Good post.

We take my M-I-L to lunch on Sundays. She can barely walk even with a walker. We have a HC placard but I always drop them off right at the front door, which is a bit of an ordeal. I then park in a regular spot.

On the subject of parking at the far reaches of the parking lot. Its much easier these days to find my car when I come out as it is all by itself waiting for me.


69 posted on 08/26/2019 7:12:01 AM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: cuban leaf

Your pretzel logic and sense of entitlement are amazing. Try using that argument on a LEO.


70 posted on 08/26/2019 7:12:02 AM PDT by sunny bonobo
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To: DoodleDawg
Don’t start no trouble, won’t be no trouble. The shooter had a history of confronting people. He looks like a mentallly unbalanced jackass.

The store owner had called the cops on Drejka for harassing customers in a previous situation. A Parking Lot Rambo Wanna Be who had nothing better to do that hang out at the corner Quikie Mart looking to start some shit.

What irks me more than people parking in handicapped spaces are the lazy mofos that leave the shopping carts that goon up 3-4 parking spots.. 😡Those people need to be shot. /s Please don’t red flag me!

FWIW, in Virginia Beach, if you call the cops about Handicapped parking, the cops don’t respond, it’s a Community Service Officer

71 posted on 08/26/2019 7:13:10 AM PDT by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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To: DoodleDawg
”He claimed "stand your ground".

No, he claimed self defense.

72 posted on 08/26/2019 7:13:36 AM PDT by mlo
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To: sunny bonobo

There is a reason some signs say “no parking” and others say “no stopping”. They are legally different things, though related.

It’s not pretzel logic. And it’s only a sense of entitlement as in human beings are entitled to make reasonable decisions, thanks to the size of their brains.

Fact is, as long as there is always at least one handicapped space available, there is nothing wrong with stopping in a handicapped space, as long as one understands that, once a handicapped person takes up the one empty space, they are obligated to leave their space to make it available to a handicapped person.

That is completely reasonable and efficient. And no handicapped person is unable to park because a non-handicapped person is stopped in a handicapped space.

Everybody is happy except the parking space nannys.


73 posted on 08/26/2019 7:18:02 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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To: DoodleDawg

They were both aggressors, but once the gun was drawn, and the man that did the pushing started backing up (just like everyone else in that parking lot) he made his point. Unfortunately, those two seconds from him pulling his gun and firing it was not long enough for him to realize nobody was a threat by then.


74 posted on 08/26/2019 7:18:21 AM PDT by skinndogNN
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To: arthurus

no! it’s just crazy. 5 rows to park, 3 H/C spots each row.
they aren’t ever full


75 posted on 08/26/2019 7:27:12 AM PDT by ronniesgal (so I wonder what his FR handle is????)
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To: EEGator

‘I live outside of Philly, Chester, and Wilmington.’

Delaware County...?


76 posted on 08/26/2019 8:21:06 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Beagle8U

‘The perp had no intention of stopping the attack until the gun was drawn.’

that may be true; but it is also true, as you admit, that he stopped once the weapon was produced...so what then justified the usage of deadly force...?


77 posted on 08/26/2019 8:24:17 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Alberta's Child

“I work in a field where we have to incorporate ADA elements like handicap parking spaces in our site designs, and I think they are ridiculous.”

Looking at the video, the HC place was further away from the front door than many other spots. That doesn’t make sense.

There was plenty of other open spaces. The guy harassed the lady more than a minute. That was uncalled for. Perhaps even assault. He should have never carried with his personality.


78 posted on 08/26/2019 8:34:21 AM PDT by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: IrishBrigade

1500’ north of the Chadds Ford/Glen Mils area.


79 posted on 08/26/2019 8:43:57 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: IrishBrigade

I did a bunch of electrical design in DelCo over the past 5 years.

I don’t miss Marcus Hook, Chester, or Upper Darby...


80 posted on 08/26/2019 8:46:49 AM PDT by EEGator
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