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Stop Trying to Fix the Police—They’re Not the Problem
Townhall.com ^ | August , | Sheriff David Clarke (Ret)

Posted on 08/06/2019 12:01:23 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: grumpygresh

Local police are a very mixed bag mostly due to one of the two most common problems police have. The first big problem is that the government they report to views them as a revenue source first and public safety only as an afterthought. The second problem is officers who are on a power trip.


21 posted on 08/06/2019 3:34:51 PM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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To: Kaslin

The GOP-e protected us from BLM the same way they protect us from Antifa...and being shot by FBI snipers.
By asking for donations.


22 posted on 08/06/2019 3:51:04 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: Kaslin

I respectffully disagree with Sheriff Clarke:

Once John Kennedy illicitly created public unions by Executive Order in 1961, he forever guaranteed that police departments would have an incentive to promote leftist politics.

It does not matter how the vaunted rank and file vote: The urban mayors and chiefs are almost invariably inveterate leftists.

San Jose Convention Center, June 2016. Nuff said.


23 posted on 08/06/2019 4:19:44 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Pox
I wonder how the GOPe would react to this man being nominated to replace Coats...

They would join with the Democrats to unanimously vote him down in committee. Clarke has absolutely nothing in his background that would qualify him for the DNI spot.

24 posted on 08/06/2019 4:39:30 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: wastedyears
Is this worth a ping?

yes

25 posted on 08/06/2019 5:32:49 PM PDT by null and void (When the only tool you have is a hammer, ALL your problems look like skulls.)
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To: wastedyears; Alaska Wolf; DCBryan1; Slings and Arrows; Doomonyou; napscoordinator; Shimmer1; ...
JBT Ping list

“Any police department (or university faculty, or military unit, etc.) is only as good as the worst psycho they tolerate.” ~ H/T RedStateRocker


26 posted on 08/06/2019 5:34:16 PM PDT by null and void (When the only tool you have is a hammer, ALL your problems look like skulls.)
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Dr. Clarissa Cole on After Hours AM April 17, 2019

(Start at 78:31)

Dr. Cole: He had an epiphany; he was going to become a cop!

Eric Olsen: Ha ha ha what??? Uh, so, wait a minute, he was told by a former employer, if you ever, you better never get a job where you have influence over others, an authority position, or I’ll do whatever it takes to stop you. So wouldn’t becoming a cop kinda give him the ultimate authority over people?

Dr. Cole: Well, you know, lucky for all these other people, he kept moving from county to county so they weren’t really, uh, yeah, it is the ultimate authority he was just moving around so people wouldn’t know what he was doing, and I think getting out of the teaching profession they didn’t know what he was going to do.

He eventually applied to the Broward County Police Unit; he was rejected, though, because he failed the psychological test.

Eric Olsen: Oh that’s it he’s out of the career. No career for him He’s obviously unstable…

Dr. Cole: One, you know what? One would think so, and I actually used to perform these psych tests, and oh, do I have stories! You would think that it would even, it’s supposed to, let me tell you how it’s supposed to work, it’s supposed to prevent you from getting a job as a police officer or a prison guard.

Eric Olsen: Sure.

Dr. Cole: Does that always occur?

Eric Olsen: I would hope that it does.

Dr. Cole: No, no, no, I would say 50% of the time.

Eric Olsen: What?

Dr. Cole: It’s supposed to be a be a requirement, a REQUIREMENT, if you don’t pass, if you are not psychologically fit, you are not supposed to become a police officer or a prison guard. Does that actually preclude you from becoming a police officer even as long ago as what, 2005? No, I was doing them in 2005. Half of the people I rejected still became a cop.

Eric Olsen: How does that happen? How do they get around this?

Dr. Cole: Oh God there so many ways

Eric Olsen: Is it a buddy, a dad?

Dr. Cole: My son, he’s the son of my buddy, his dad a cop, he has to be a cop, he’s going to work in this county and we’re really understaffed, we need people, we know he failed, but it’s OK. The amount of excuses I heard to employ people.

And that’s the thing, just so the general public is aware, it’s difficult to fail, it’s difficult to fail one of these psychological…

Eric Olsen: What would cause one…

Dr. Cole: It’s not like the bar is so darned high that no one could pass, it’s nothing LIKE that, this test is just to find out is this person basically psychologically stable, are they non-sadistic, do they not have criminal or punishing tendencies or narcissistic tendencies themselves. Basically you’re trying to weed out anybody that has a like God complex; I’m judge, jury, and executioner. You want to get those people out of there. You’re trying to get people out of there that are just psychiatrically so unstable that they can’t control their emotions so, maybe some sort of bipolar thing going on or somebody that absolutely clearly has a personality disorder, like narcissistic personality disorder, antisocial personality disorder, borderline personality disorder. They are not

Eric Olsen: Checks and balances. Checks and balances to protect the general public from somebody that would not do well in that position.

Dr. Cole: And I was very, yeah, I was extremely, forgiving on these psychological tests even when somebody would sort of hit sort of some of those marks on the tests we would give, I would ask in interviews I would ask a ton of questions just to be very, very sure that this person was indeed failing the psychological exam, and I did not fail that many people, but the people I failed, please believe me that it was for extremely good reasons, extremely good reasons, and half of them became cops anyway.

Eric Olsen: So when they‘d leave would they go to a different state and do it?

Dr. Cole: Hah no, they would get hired by different a county, like a couple minutes over usually. Somebody knew them and “Now let’s pick them up.” No, no, no, he has really strong sadistic tendencies and fantasies of rape and murder, you really shouldn’t hire him and they would. And that’s exactly, I hope it’s different that was like I said, this was in 2005, it scared the heck out of me and I said I would never have a career doing that I don’t want to know that those people are becoming officers.

Eric Olsen: Tell me it’s in the minority, though, that this happens.

Dr. Cole: It’s in the minority that people fail, the majority of people passed. But those that do fail, like I said it’s for very good reason, but half of them. Half of them got picked up. So no, it’s not a minority a full 50% got hired.

Eric Olsen: That is truly a scary number out there that 50% of...

Dr. Cole: It’s a small sample, a small sample that was in a place that was economically depressed and needed officers…

(End at 83:29)

27 posted on 08/06/2019 5:36:25 PM PDT by null and void (When the only tool you have is a hammer, ALL your problems look like skulls.)
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To: Jarhead9297

IF those cops are tolerating and enabling the bad actors, how are they different from the bad actors? Remember, the saying is “One bad apple spoils the whole barrel.”

Just read something by a ‘good cop’ on how, if ordered, he would perform gun confiscations. Because he doesn’t want to lose his job.

I’m old.
I grew up on Adam 12, Dragnet, Tales of the FBI, SWAT, CHiPs, Emergency, etc. Cops were heroes. If they have lost me, they have dug a pretty deep hole for themselves.


28 posted on 08/06/2019 7:24:27 PM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Agreed. Cops are there to hammer the nail. Don’t ever call for the hammer unless you really need a hammer.

Personally I have no use for the police. Others mileage may differ.


29 posted on 08/06/2019 7:54:09 PM PDT by wgmalabama (Mittens is the new Juan. Go away mittens)
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To: Little Ray
Just read something by a ‘good cop’ on how, if ordered, he would perform gun confiscations. Because he doesn’t want to lose his job.

Then he should be prepared to lose something else in exchange.

30 posted on 08/06/2019 7:55:51 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: wgmalabama

I think you do. As far as crime prevention, like my daddy always said, a locked door only keeps honest people honest. Were it not for cops, there would be 1000 X more criminals.

The Cops are the locked door to a lot of people who would just take everything you own. They’d drive by your house and steal everything in sight if you were away. Of course, you’d be out robbing other peoples stuff too. You would have to make your home a fortress were it not for the police.


31 posted on 08/07/2019 5:11:48 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: Jarhead9297

And I should point out that your “10%” can’t arrest or kill people and don’t have near-absolute immunity for their crimes:

https://mises.org/wire/how-qualified-immunity-became-absolute-immunity-police-officers

Cops should be held to a MUCH higher standard than ordinary people and being a cop should be a major aggravating circumstance to any crime the cop commits on the job or in uniform.


32 posted on 08/07/2019 5:18:22 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Kaslin

I only ask three things of law enforcement :

1. Uphold and defend the Constitution you swore to uphold and defend.

2. Obey the laws you enforce.
3. Don’t be a dick


33 posted on 08/07/2019 7:30:11 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I disagree. Without law enforcement to protect the criminals from law abiding armed citizenry there would be far fewer criminals.


34 posted on 08/07/2019 7:32:39 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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35 posted on 08/07/2019 10:33:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

The culture’s breaking down... police are doing to their best to maintain order after a flood has washed away the signposts... and the power has gone out.


36 posted on 08/07/2019 12:00:15 PM PDT by GOPJ (Truth cannot be racist; only evil dishonest reprobates would say otherwise - Mychal Massie)
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