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Dad charged in death of twin babies he left in hot car
NY Post ^ | July 27, 2019 | Kenneth Garger

Posted on 07/27/2019 12:03:00 AM PDT by aquila48

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To: aquila48

This is an horrific nightmare for all concerned. Unimaginable grief. In addition to the precious innocent lives lost, many others have been ruined forever. Let us pray for the souls of all.


61 posted on 07/27/2019 6:30:38 AM PDT by drwoof
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To: stanne

“Mother is not off the hook in this case.”

Depends on the situation. Perhaps she was in Mexico visiting relatives, perhaps she’s not even alive?


62 posted on 07/27/2019 6:33:12 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: All

My kids are grown so now I do grand parenting duties. If I go to the post office just to drop a few bills in the slot inside,I unbuckle my granddaughter and take her in with me. When at home if they go into the kitchen from the living room and 15 seconds go by I holler out “What are you doing in there?!”


63 posted on 07/27/2019 6:36:10 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (commending the interests of our dearest country to the protection of almighty God-G. Washington 1775)
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To: 4yearlurker

I hear you.


64 posted on 07/27/2019 6:40:54 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: dp0622
I can tell from your answer that people who dont procreate have failed.

No, it's that people who have never had children have ZERO understanding of what it is like to be a parent. This is a fact.

65 posted on 07/27/2019 7:06:53 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: aquila48

If it was an accident, then surely someone else was expecting the infants to be somewhere else that day, not in the father’s car, and that fact would have come to the father’s attention, with a phone call from someone, sometime after he got to work.

That makes me think the time the infants spent alone in the car was not an accident, but an idiotic, stupid and tragic mistake by the father.

We can surmise all sorts of possibilities about why the kids were in the car, and not somewhere else to begin with. None of them would make sense to me. I don’t grant parents the right to “forgetfulness” in just any case at all. Some cases demand and expect parents to be vigilant about them.

That’s being kind and not assuming greater evil intent on his part.


66 posted on 07/27/2019 7:24:00 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: aquila48

He needs to relieve his pain.

Not now not ever buying the, “forgot the child was in the car.” alibi.

Some people are too stupid, irresponsible, uncaring, ignorant to have children.

I thought all the modern conveniences were supposed to give us more time? Instead they are distracting and wasteful of time. They are like pacifiers that make us brain dead.


67 posted on 07/27/2019 7:36:31 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: BobL

1-When we were having kiddo #1, we did serious financial planning. At ge 30 something a 1,000,000.00 life policy is affordable to anyone. Mom dies, nanny moves in

2- Mothers of one year olds let alone twins simply have no business going anywhere without them for mot than eight hours.

You can argue this based on current standards all you want all day Saturday. My argument is look at the current culture.

People love to make fun of millennials and Snowflakes

It is a generation of kids that had been dumped in daycare they know they’re just a daddy’s hangover away from getting abandoned all day in the car. And they don’t know how to cope with life let alone gain a sense of love of country. They are not lived


68 posted on 07/27/2019 7:49:25 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Gene Eric
Another [new] parent that failed to develop that nagging sense of awareness.

One year old twins — not so new. This is unthinkable.

69 posted on 07/27/2019 7:55:50 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: livius
The family had just had a big party for the twins and the neighbors said they fussed over the children constantly and never left them unattended.

Jealous dad, consciously or unconsciously, gets revenge.

70 posted on 07/27/2019 7:57:31 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Hieronymus
Change in routine coupled with...

Stop right there. That’s not an excuse. He is a father, not a robot. As a social worker, he may have been the one to throw the switch on other people’s parental rights, or similar life-altering decisions. Hope he gets fired and divorced, at the very least, quite aside from his legal woes.

71 posted on 07/27/2019 8:02:01 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Albion Wilde

Actually a robot probably wouldn’t of “forgotten” the kids.


72 posted on 07/27/2019 8:03:22 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Twitter, Facebook and New York City do not represent the real world.)
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To: libertylover
I suspect the change in routine theory is spot-on.

Baloney. I have a prime piece of coastal real estate I’d like to sell you for $500.

73 posted on 07/27/2019 8:03:48 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: 21twelve
I’m guessing his coworkers will be questioned on what his behavior at work was that day.

They will discover who he’s involved with other than his wife and download all the pron and dating site profiles on his computers. This reminds me of that piece of scum out west who killed his pregnant wife and dumped his two toddlers into oil silos at his workplace, then lied his brains out on tv and to the police. But the neighbor’s property surveillance tapes told the tale.

74 posted on 07/27/2019 8:09:21 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: cuban leaf
The rush to judgement here is shocking. This is why I don’t think women should be judges. I’m assuming you are female.

The males on here willing to make excuses for an 8-HOUR lapse of parental responsibility by a SOCIAL WORKER is disgusting! It’s like those male judges who sentence child rapists to a few months, with time off for time served.

75 posted on 07/27/2019 8:17:13 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Drew68
The overwhelming majority of these are accidents. Criminal negligence, to be sure, but not premeditated acts of murder.

Yeah, really?

Father of son who died in 91F SUV is barred from toddler's funeral - as police reveal he did internet search on how long it takes animals to die in hot cars

76 posted on 07/27/2019 8:20:38 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: cuban leaf; BobL
Maybe it’s just a male thing, but I have plenty of examples of things that have completely slipped my mind, yet we’re extremely important. I can actually see this happening

Glad neither of you is a doctor, soldier, police officer, attorney, accountant, EMT, fireman...

77 posted on 07/27/2019 8:26:40 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Albion Wilde
Yeah, really? Father of son who died in 91F SUV is barred from toddler's funeral - as police reveal he did internet search on how long it takes animals to die in hot cars

That story is five years old. Susan Smith (cited on this thread) is a 25 year old story. Sure, some parents leave their kids in cars intentionally to murder them but I still maintain that the majority of these case are nothing more than sad accidents.

78 posted on 07/27/2019 8:39:33 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: csvset

Yes, change in routine-maybe. Possible scenario: His wife always takes the kids to daycare but she couldn’t do it that day so he took them. They fell asleep in the car and were quiet and he forgot his duty. When he got to work he got out of the car as usual and went in to work and left them. He committed a crime, but it might not be murder. If you’re going to murder your children you’d think he could think of a way that would give him a better chance of getting away with it.


79 posted on 07/27/2019 9:40:22 AM PDT by libertylover (Democrats hated Lincoln too.)
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To: aquila48

A normal human being does not leave their children in their car. Ever. Period. End of story.
I’ve been dog tired too many times to count, routines changed, blah, blah, blah. Had to change schedule, had to change routine, all that. I would die before forgetting my kids. But I am a normal human being. Not a self-centered a-hole.


80 posted on 07/27/2019 9:43:30 AM PDT by vpintheak (Stop making stupid people famous!)
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