Posted on 06/17/2019 6:52:06 AM PDT by Pollard
Do you see Trump standing by twiddling his thumbs?
Looks to me like he is addressing both, with one hand (congress), make that two hands (congress and the judiciary), tied behind his back.
Again, it amazes me that because there are multiple issues to be dealt with, we have to ignore one to work the other. I guess we need that aircraft carrier and battle group back to patrol the Rio Grande. Good use of resources there. Good thinking Alberta.
As was done under Reagan, we will develop an international force to maintain the freedom of passage in a critical waterway. We are affected as well. Our ships have the right to pass thru those waters without fear of being attacked or mined. The Iranians tried to shoot down one of our drones assisting one of the damaged tankers. What should our reaction be?
“The US Navy Mission Statement: “The mission of the Navy is to maintain, train and equip combat-ready Naval forces capable of winning wars, deterring aggression and maintaining freedom of the seas.” “
Your are precisely correct.
The Conservative/Liberaltarian strain has a tendency to go isolationist from time to time, getting us into larger wars.
Protecting “freedom of navigation” is a US interest and always will be.
Looks to me like the bullies they identify are pretty well commonly accepted as bullies. You don’t think the Ayatollah’s are bullies? You don’t think Assad is a bully? you don’t think NK is a bad kingdom?
I appreciate that Trump has taken a different approach form that in the past to try to disarm some of these rogue nations, but I also appreciate that there are folks around who don’t stick their collective heads in the sand and pretend these aren’t bad actors.
A U.S. company that owns ships and registers them in other countries only does this for one reason: to circumvent U.S. laws and regulations. Period.
This is what "globalism" is all about. Register your ship in a foreign country so you can sail it all over the world with a Greek captain and Malaysian crew members, and make your port calls in Singapore so you can buy cheap fuel and use Filipino laborers for repairs and maintenance.
But the moment your ship runs into trouble in the waters off some Third World sh!t-hole, you just call the U.S. politicians you've been bribing for years ... so they can have some retarded baboon get on national TV and claim that "Islam is peace" while he sends your mercenaries from the U.S. military to do the dirty work that you've spent decades refusing to pay for.
This captures the essence of Donald Trump's successful presidential campaign. Jeb Bush walked away humiliated from the 2016 GOP primaries because Americans are really sick of this sh!t.
"Please clap."
OPEC also benefits as does Iran. The price of oil goes up for everyone, including the consumer. Oil is a global commodity. It is fungible. The insurance rates for ships transiting the strait are already being raised as the risk increases.
Oh, please.
100,000+ Latin Americans invade this country every month, and the same @ssholes in Washington who are clamoring for military campaigns all over the globe refuse to do a damn thing about it.
Two wrongs don't make a right? You must be kidding me. The U.S. is like a man who runs to a neighbor's home three blocks away to help him deal with raccoons knocking over his garbage cans ... while ignoring the desperate pleas of his wife and children while they are held hostage by a mutant robbing his own home at gunpoint.
"Please clap."
I am not making any excuses for the clown show in DC.
I am also not ignoring the threat presented by the Iranians in the Persian Gulf. Sooner or later they will need to be dealt with.
Right. So let's piss away several thousand of them fighting a stupid war in Iraq ... so that country can establish a new constitution where Islam is enshrined as the national religion.
This protects and defends the constitution and our way of life? LMAO.
"Please clap."
Guess what we’re going to be able to do about a Chinese move on Taiwan if we’re hip deep in a major war in the Middle East again.
This is why I suspect Chinese inspiration for a lot of this rah-rah war cheerleading.
So far the list of reasons to go to war here that I’ve seen on FR:
1) Personal axe to grind over Beirut
2) We’re the world’s policeman
3) The defense contractor I work for would do really really well and I might even get a bonus
Secondly, we are capable of walking and chewing gun at the same time. One can interpret America first as meaning guard the border, and that to me is one priority.
Problem with that is those beating the war drums loudest fully support the open borders agenda. Given that I see no reason to support them on this at the expense of American blood and treasure. If they want to help POTUS close the border than I am fine with giving some ground on the Iran issue.
“When your goal is destroying a nation and its culture, ebola is just another tool.“
You got that right
BUT WE DON'T.
This fact alone exposes the globalists pushing for these endless military campaigns as treasonous frauds.
How can I fight over who exactly bombed the oil tanker of a rich Asian country when 5,000 people invade my homeland EVERY night..?
Point is why should you fight when the donor class is promoting the open borders agenda. If they want our support they need to play team ball. But loyalty is a one way street in American politics these days. Political elites do what they want and Main Street voters can DIAF for all they care.
I get your anger at the attack our constitution and way of life are under here at home. We have to deal with both threats at home and abroad.
You should try to take each problem individually, and address each one without linking them. The threat at home is real, but not the same as the threat abroad. They each have different challenges, and arguably, the threat today is greater domestically than from abroad. But both still exist. The tools used to address each are different. Not the same hammer for both.
Protecting freedom of navigation for American vessels is certainly a U.S. interest.
Protecting freedom of navigation for commercial vessels owned by companies that go to great lengths to avoid operating under U.S. law sure as hell isn't.
This is precisely why Jeb Bush was less popular than a child molester among Republican primary voters in 2016.
See Post #85. And "please clap" while you're at it.
Evil people have a way of using issues to their advantage. You have to pick apart the issues and deal with each separately. Of course there are people who would like to use a ME threat as a distraction from work to be done here at home. Doesn't mean we ignore real problems.
We can do both at the same time.
We won’t. There is no more bipartisan issue in DC than open borders and nothing short of the “root and branch” removal of the Uniparty from power will change that.
*sigh* yeah.
Donald Trump was elected President because tens of millions of Americans are sick of living in a country where draft dodgers send other people off to war -- for the sole purpose of protecting and advancing the interests of powerful Saudi royal family members who have been global real estate investment partners of the Bush family for decades.
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