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Matt Gaetz: ‘America First’ Means Protecting U.S. Border Before Avenging Japanese Vessels
breitbart ^ | 6/17/19 | Sean Moran

Posted on 06/17/2019 6:52:06 AM PDT by Pollard

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To: Magnum44

Now, what happens when the parties are no longer representing the interests of the voters? You have to clean house, but you do that by taking back the party.


The GOP isn’t interested in reform. There is nothing to “take back.” Support them on Iran and they will happily take it. Then give Main Street nothing as our schools are filled with disease riddled illegal aliens.

We gave the GOP the Congress and the WH. And what did they do? Threw the House to Democrats and obstruct POTUS with the Mueller Coup. There would be no Mueller “investigation” and his police state tactics without the support of the GOP.

The donor class funded GOPers prefer progressive Democrat policies to conservative America First policy. Nothing you or I will do ever change that. I wish it was different but it was it is. Time to face that ugly reality. Sorry.


141 posted on 06/17/2019 10:14:26 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: SauronOfMordor

The regulations governing US flagged vessels are costly and voluminous. I took a college course on International Maritime Law and Commerce. It was some time ago, but it was an eye-opener. Safety regulations alone present a huge disincentive to US registration. And then there are taxes.

Is it any wonder why so many ships have flags of convenience from Panama and Liberia?


142 posted on 06/17/2019 10:22:12 AM PDT by kabar
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To: lodi90

It takes time. The Tea party was a start. The conservative caucus is a continuation. We need more to continue the change.

I can see why you would give up in CA. CA seems to be a lost cause. But CA is not the nation. But on this topic, like I stated earlier, I am not looking to argue. Just my opinion.


143 posted on 06/17/2019 10:25:21 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: null and void
We win wars in the field, and lose them in Washington.

Which is why they shouldn't be fought in the first place.

Fighting a war for the U.S. is like betting on the heavy favorite in the Super Bowl even if you already know the game is going to be rigged for the underdog to win.

You'd have to be 'effing retarded to even bet a dime on that game.

144 posted on 06/17/2019 10:30:12 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: kabar

> Who says we are going to war?

Should be pretty obvious to anyone who remembers any of the last dozen attempts, successful and unsuccessful, to bring us to war. This incident has zero deviation from the pattern.

Go review what McCain/Clinton/Kerry tried to pull to drag us into a war in Syria a few years back. Or review the notorious Colin Powell presentation to the UN.

Accusations of causus belli with no non-fraudulent evidence is the M.O. and this is a perfect example. When the “evidence” is so insulting to the intelligence as in this case, it is all the more outrageous that it has been attempted.

Everyone involved in this scam should be replaced and held in custody until a full investigation is made... and made public. I would like to know all the details about the who and how of war pretext manufacture - it is our vital interest to put a permanent stop to it.


145 posted on 06/17/2019 10:53:26 AM PDT by thoughtomator (The Clinton Coup attempt was a worse attack on the USA than was 9/11)
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To: kabar

Flags of convenience are evasion of law.

If a ship is going to fly the flag of Panama, then they should be relying on Panama to defend them.

Relying on the US to defend their ships when they specifically refuse to register as US ships to evade US laws is a wholly immoral practice.


146 posted on 06/17/2019 10:57:36 AM PDT by thoughtomator (The Clinton Coup attempt was a worse attack on the USA than was 9/11)
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To: kabar
Iran is the biggest state sponsor of terrorism in the world. Obama gave them $150 billion to fund these attacks and relaxed sanctions against them for a flawed deal.

If that's the case, then the U.S. has no business mounting even a minimal military response without putting Obama in jail first.

This is why the U.S. is regarded as little more than a retarded schoolyard bully by a lot of leaders around the world.

147 posted on 06/17/2019 11:00:46 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: Pox
Do you think you can have a discussion without labeling those you disagree with as "a-holes" or "Idiot"?

I'll never be nice when someone accuses FReepers of being on the side of Iranians, Putin and the Chinese. Because people who accuse me and others here of betraying our country suck. Worse, is that they can't get the piss beat out of them over the internet.

Thank you for the correction, now maybe sit on one of these. Just a suggestion.


148 posted on 06/17/2019 11:10:50 AM PDT by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: Alberta's Child
Why are you bothering to engage in pointless banter with a well known trolls? Bored?

What I find fascinating reading through the standardized and scripted responses is: what's the point? Do they think they can help craft the narrative? Is FR considered a leading edge site that can possibly be used to influence opinion? Or, is it merely incubator attempts, mere practice runs to test out various market tested rationales?

I would hope for their sake that the motivations are least somewhat sophisticated. It would be sort of sad if it was nothing more than the impotent projection, a fantasized ideal of what the US was or could be still be. This might be the case for those who live in flyover country, but for those in deep blue states, even a blind fool can tell the tide has turned.

Here's the issue: illegal Hispanic immigrants have a collective group IQ at 92 or below. How are future generations based on this genetic stock going to compete with the Chinese in weapons technology? What does it matter if they mimic conservative values, if they can't back it up via force? Or alternatively, imagine for a moment that American-Asians are able to maintain leadership, but the Western ideals that place primacy on the individual are eroded. To what end does a future US even represent what so many are still projecting today?

If we lose both our intellectual advantages and/or cultural way of life, then how does a future US even (a) project power; (b) represent "good"? That's why the key fight of course is the border, but we already know that. What's interesting is the attempt to change the focus elsewhere. Why?

149 posted on 06/17/2019 11:31:32 AM PDT by semantic
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To: kabar

I agree that regs which make US uncompetitive should go, as part of a project to build up the US merchant fleet.

My objective is to build up the US. Not Panama or Liberia.


150 posted on 06/17/2019 11:33:14 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: thoughtomator

Trump is not taking us to war. There will be no US ground presence in Iran. Nor will there be bombing to the extent we had in Syria under Trump, if necessary.

The blame and responsibility rest with Iran. They are the ones laying mines and shooting at our drone in international waters.


151 posted on 06/17/2019 12:25:54 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

> The blame and responsibility rest with Iran. They are the ones laying mines and shooting at our drone in international waters.

You have some proof of this? From a reliable, trustworthy source?


152 posted on 06/17/2019 12:30:47 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The Clinton Coup attempt was a worse attack on the USA than was 9/11)
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To: Alberta's Child

What leaders regard the US as a “retarded schoolboy bully”? Name some names.

Do you doubt that Iran planted the mines and targeted a missile at our drone hovering over the damaged tanker in international waters?


153 posted on 06/17/2019 12:31:14 PM PDT by kabar
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To: thoughtomator

I believe DOD, Pompeo, and Trump. The video is fairly clear and I am sure we have radar or satellite images of the missile being launched from Iran. I also have some firsthand experience dealing with the revolutionary regime in Iran dating back to February 14, 1979 when they seized our Chancery building and Embassy compound in Tehran the first time.

You may not believe it, but we are the good guys in this confrontation. Iranian support for terrorism and the spread of radical Islamic theology will not end until there is regime change. Obama aided the mullahs. I guess he believed they were trustworthy. Do you believe Iran’s denial?


154 posted on 06/17/2019 12:43:04 PM PDT by kabar
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