Posted on 06/07/2019 12:15:08 PM PDT by Hojczyk
The Republican Party never much liked Donald Trump or what he represented.
The GOP and establishment conservative groups never much liked Trump’s supporters.
Republicans were fine at cowering behind their desks at the first sign of adversity. They were used to making promises and not following through. They were happy to cede power to a radical fascist left that continues to tear away at the fabric of this great nation.
When Trump won Paul Ryan said he would build a wall. Paul Ryan lied… repeatedly. He never had any intention of building a wall.
Either did Mitch McConnell.
When Trump declared a national emergency at the border 12 Senate Republicans voted against him. TWELVE!
In May GOP senators killed off Trump supporter Steve Moore’s nomination to the Federal Reserve Board.
They said they would not support tariffs on our southern enemy. They won’t support this president.
But the worst abuses are on the US Constitution.
Since 2016 the far left tech giants and radical liberal groups have been eliminating conservative voices online. They are harassing companies to remove advertising from conservative platforms and FOX News shows. Hundreds of conservatives have been affected.
The left is using fascist tactics to rid the internet of conservative voices. And NO ONE IS DOING ANYTHING TO STOP THEM!
No one.
When conservatives were kicked off YouTube or Twitter or Facebook the GOP said nothing and did nothing.
When Trump supporters get their ass kicked by an Antifa mob, Republicans do nothing.
It is clear the Republican Party is AWOL. They are like a shell company. Just a name and nothing else.
Maybe it’s time to think about a new movement? Maybe it’s time to Brexit the GOP?
When people continue to show you who they are, believe them.
(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...
Like Reagan Trump will be gone in eight years..and its back to normal...
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I don’t believe that.
Several things will change (or have already changed).
1. Assuming that President Trump wins re-election, he’ll have PLENTY of time to turn the Supreme Court solidly to the right. She may bathe in virgin’s blood, but Ruth Ginsburg is NOT immortal, and I can’t see her making it to the next Democrat President (again, assuming Trump wins re-election). Big Change. Big plus for our side.
2. We don’t know what’s going to happen regarding holding those responsible for the soft coup. If justice prevails, it will up-end everything, forever and there might not even BE a RAT party to run against. Yes, it’s wishful thinking - but it’s possible.
3. The biggest change is in US - the people who used to hold our noses and vote for human feces like John McCain and Mitt Romney because we’d convinced ourselves that the alternative was worse. Well, from what I’ve seen since President Trump won, that plan just isn’t going to work anymore for the deep state, as I and a whole bunch of other people, I’m sure, will just sit home if those bastards try and foist another Jeb! and his effing guacamole bowls at us. That’s a sea change.
The way you state it, it looks as if your excellent question answers itself: Build a "third" party within the GOP. Have Trump-supporting, nationalist candidates start way in advance of the GOP primaries, running where the incumbent is a Democrat or a weak GOP anti-Trumpster. If the Trumpster wins his primary--drawing on marketing campaigns to Trump supporters cultivated from all parties, growing the number of registered Republicans--work the blue-collar, patriotic angle to peel away union, black, and Hispanic Democrats in the general election. All the campaigns need to be predicated on going after the full spectrum of Trump demographics.
A parallel of that is how the GOP became the pro-life party: It peeled away Democrats who had become disgusted with the aborters, and in the process, turned those same people, some of whom had been liberal, against socialist policies. The pro-life movement is what saved the GOP from being a minority party, which it had become before Reagan, and probably caused a lot of Republicans to change their views on abortion and possibly avoid hell. Win-win-win, eh?
3. The biggest change is in US - the people who used to hold our noses and vote for human feces like John McCain and Mitt Romney because we’d convinced ourselves that the alternative was worse. Well, from what I’ve seen since President Trump won, that plan just isn’t going to work anymore for the deep state, as I and a whole bunch of other people, I’m sure, will just sit home if those bastards try and foist another Jeb! and his effing guacamole bowls at us. That’s a sea change.
Oh, I think the GOPe vote for us because we are not Democrats branding will continue. Just look at this thread. Half people here do not want to face the ugly truths that the GOP is unreformable and that progressive statists control both halves of the Uniparty.
If half the people engaged in politics do not see the grave danger the open borders agenda Uniparty has put this country in than there is no way low info voters will ever buy a clue and help defeat them before it is too late.
The problem is not the GOP...
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No, the GOP really is the problem. The party machinery controls the money and decides how to spend it and who to support. The base operates under the illusion that it controls the party. Nothing could be farther from the truth.
Once people get elected and come to Washington they are immediately subjected to pressure by the party elites. They quickly discover that the best way to get along is to go along. The GOP is really more of a club than a political party. Unfortunately, its been pretty good at pandering to its big contributors and pressuring members to go along with the program. Note that the size of the government and spending never decrease under any GOP platform.
Notwithstand their claims of fighting for conservative interests just before every election cycle, the GOP loves and supports big government. They just play the voters election after election.
And it seemed like almost everyone who ran for Congress as a "Deplorable" candidate after 2016 turned out to be a nitwit, a phony, or just not an effective, winning candidate (see Lou Barletta in PA as a perfect example of the last type).
I understand that. That’s why I’m not a Republican.
They need the money to finance their party apparatus and their political campaigns, and they need the votes to win elections. In many cases, their financial supporters and their voters are in disagreement over core issues. It should come as no surprise that the end result is a highly dysfunctional political party.
I suggest that the “take over the GOP” advocates try to remove Tom Donahue from the bowels of the Republican party and then get back to us realists. We’ll be waiting a very long time.
What has your election of Bill Clinton gotten us?
Half people here do not want to face the ugly truths that the GOP is unreformable
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You are correct. The GOP is what it is and it will never change. Why that is not obvious to some is baffling. Decade after decade the GOP stabs its voters in the back, and yet they keep turning out to vote for the scoundrels as though they are loyal soldiers fighting for conservative causes.
I get the “lesser of two evils” thing but at some point that game has to run out of time.
Consider that neither Trump nor Reagan have been able to fundamentally change the party. If they can’t do it, nobody can.
There are only 3 big constituencies that politicians care about:
Big government
Large corporations
Police state/Military industrial complex
Free markets and individual rights are a joke to them
I remember a show that Glenn Beck did on Fox before he was threatened and compromised. He has two coffins representing the US and 2 people nailing the coffins. The Dems were doing it fast and the Republicans were doing it a bit slower.
Your point is a good one. To be sure, there is a deeply embedded culture and mindset in the GOP that is highly resistant to change. And make no mistake about it, the GOP is not one bit happy about the outsider Trump winning the presidency.
The Bushes, Clinton and Obama were all one worlders.
They do not care what we think. They are barely even pretending to listen anymore.
They will keep doing what they do until they are removed.
Perhaps that can be done by voting. Perhaps other means will be required.
Exactly, Trump is as welcome in the Republican party as a skunk at a picnic. I’m praying he tosses in a grenade before he closes the door on the place. The only thing worse than McConnell & company are the poor unfortunates who are so damaged they can’t see thru the scam.
It should come as no surprise that the end result is a highly dysfunctional political party.
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Dysfunctional is one thing, but that is not really what is going on inside the GOP. To the contrary, the party is functioning in a very deliberate way to undermine the person who was selected by the party’s voters to be their president. The GOP doesn’t give a damn what we want.
I don’t even think the witch hunt would have gotten off the ground if these so called Republicans in the Congress stood behind Trump.
Maybe it’s time to secede from a country that was once built on freedom and individualism. Probably want to form around Texas & Oklahoma. No socialists allowed, no societal parasites allowed either. You wanna eat? Then do your part.
Exactly, Trump is as welcome in the Republican party as a skunk at a picnic
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LOL! Thanks for the laugh. :)
I needed it.
Agree. Trump used the Republican party to get himself elected. Was the only way. Can’t create a new Party and vote split.
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