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Do Trump's Hawks Speak for Trump?
Townhall.com ^ | June 4, 2019 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 06/04/2019 5:40:48 AM PDT by Kaslin

For a president who won his office by denouncing the Middle East wars into which George W. Bush and Barack Obama plunged the nation, Donald Trump has assembled the most unabashedly hawkish conclave of foreign policy advisers in memory. And he himself seems to concede the point.

If foreign policy were decided by my security adviser John Bolton, the president confided recently, "We'd be in four wars by now."

It was Bolton who ordered the Abraham Lincoln carrier group and B-52s to the Gulf and told the Pentagon to draw up plans to send 120,000 U.S. troops. It is Bolton who is charging Iran with using mines to sabotage four oil tankers outside the Strait of Hormuz.

Asked for evidence, Bolton barked back at reporters: "Who else would you think is doing it? Somebody from Nepal?"

But if Bolton is first hawk, he is not without rivals in the inner circle of the Commander in Chief.

At West Point last week, Vice President Mike Pence, after hailing the diversity of a class with the highest number of Hispanic and black women graduates ever, laid out what the future holds in store for them.

"You will fight on a battlefield for America ... You will lead soldiers in combat. It will happen.

"Some of you will join the fight against radical Islamic terrorists in Afghanistan and Iraq. Some of you will join the fight on the Korean Peninsula and in the Indo-Pacific, where North Korea continues to threaten the peace, and an increasingly militarized China challenges our presence.

"Some of you will join the fight in Europe, where an aggressive Russia seeks to redraw international boundaries by force. And some of you may even be called upon to serve in this hemisphere.

"And when that day comes, I know you will move to the sound of the guns ... and you will fight, and you will win.

"Put your armor on," Pence admonished the warriors, "so that when -- not if -- that day comes, you'll be able to stand your ground."

A question: Did not candidate Trump say he would be ending wars and bringing troops home, not plunging into new conflicts in the Mideast, Asia, Europe, the Western Hemisphere and "the Indo-Pacific"?

As for war in our hemisphere, which Pence said was possible, that could come sooner than the graduating cadets expect, if Trump's confidant Sen. Lindsey Graham has his way.

All last week, Graham beat the drums for an ultimatum to Cuba to get any and all of its troops out of Venezuela. Should Havana refuse, said Graham, Trump ought to "do in Venezuela what Reagan did in Grenada."

In 1983, Reagan ordered an invasion of Grenada to prevent U.S. medical students from being taken hostage by Marxist thugs who had just assassinated their leader and seized power.

But Grenada is a tiny island roughly twice the size of Washington, D.C., with a population of 100,000, while Venezuela is the size of Texas, with 30 million people and an army of more soldiers than Grenada has citizens.

"I would let the Venezuelan military know, you've got to choose between democracy and Maduro," thundered Graham. "And if you choose Maduro and Cuba, we're coming after you. This is our backyard."

Trump may have run as anti-interventionist, but his secretary of state was apparently not closely following his campaign.

Speaking at the West Coast neocon lamasery Claremont Institute last week, Secretary Mike Pompeo said the Founding Fathers "knew peace wasn't the norm" and "conflict is the normative experience for nations."

He ripped into the Russians.

Thirty years after the Cold War, said Pompeo, "The Putin regime slays dissidents in cold blood and invades its neighbors," and, along with China, conducts a foreign policy "intent on eroding American power."

"We Americans have had too little courage to confront regimes squarely opposed to our interests and our values."

As for "America First!" Pompeo explained Trump's signature phrase thus:

The president "believes America is exceptional -- a place and history apart from normal human experience." This recalls Madeline Albright's famous formulation: "We are the indispensable nation. We stand tall and we see further ... into the future."

President George Washington would approve of our policies, said Pompeo. Though the Father of our Country may have warned in his Farewell Address against "permanent alliances," we are "banding together with the like-minded nations like Australia, India, Japan and South Korea to make sure that each Indo-Pacific nation can protect its sovereignty from coercion."

"American exceptionalism ... will remain alive and well in the 21st century," concluded Pompeo. "What's good for the United States is good for the world."

One wonders: Do the hawks in his inner councils speak for Trump? For they surely do not speak for a nation whose weariness with wars put him into the White House.

On the first day of Trump's visit to London, Pompeo, who last year issued his 12 demands on Iran, was quoted as saying the U.S. is now prepared to negotiate with Tehran with "no preconditions."

For now, Trump's hawks appeared contained. But for how long?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: foreignpolicy; johnbolton; mikepence; mikepompeo
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1 posted on 06/04/2019 5:40:48 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Some of the things these guys said...they need to carry xanax...

Not EVERYONE wants or can handle democracy.

I foolishly thought differently before Iraq.


2 posted on 06/04/2019 5:45:47 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: Kaslin

Speak softly but carry a big stick. Bolton and the rest perform the job of “big stick” but President Trump holds the reins. These countries know what could come if they step out of line and Trump is reminding them.


3 posted on 06/04/2019 5:46:43 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Kaslin

I think it may be a variant of “Speak softly and carry a big stick”.

We have people who know how to fight and we are fully ready to fight. That’s a big stick, and some of them are being pretty loud about that big stick.

But the President is trying to speak softly and negotiate with people and implement policy through other means. It is good to make deals with this president, because the alternative would be unpleasant.


4 posted on 06/04/2019 5:46:50 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: wbarmy

GMTA


5 posted on 06/04/2019 5:47:13 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Kaslin

I just don’t see the evidence that Trump is dying to invade countries despite Bolton being at the WH.


6 posted on 06/04/2019 5:47:41 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Kaslin

Note: Far Fewer troops in combat than Obama.


7 posted on 06/04/2019 5:48:22 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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Buchanan blamed 9/11 on the U.S.


8 posted on 06/04/2019 5:50:30 AM PDT by TakebackGOP
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To: TakebackGOP

You have a source for that claim, please?

Thanks.


9 posted on 06/04/2019 5:54:56 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: wbarmy

> Speak softly but carry a big stick. Bolton and the rest perform the job of “big stick” but President Trump holds the reins. <

I think you’re right. But there’s a natural tendency in most leaders to “do something”, to take a strong action. I hope Trump is able to resist that impulse.


10 posted on 06/04/2019 5:55:23 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Kaslin

President Trump’s top economic adviser is Larry Kudlow, a long time fierce opponent of tariffs.

Just more evidence that the president is wisely surrounding himself with people of differing opinions.


11 posted on 06/04/2019 5:56:17 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Kaslin
"And when that day comes, I know you will move to the sound of the guns ... and you will fight, and you will win. "Put your armor on," Pence admonished the warriors, "so that when -- not if -- that day comes, you'll be able to stand your ground."

I hate people who have never served thinking they know what someone should be telling a group of graduates at a military academy. I would like to make two points about this particular statement.

1. America and our FVEY partners are unique in all the world. When gunfire starts anywhere else in the world, everyone scatters like cockroaches when the light comes on, even the cops. They do not start trying to determine the situation until they have backup. In America, the men (and some women) start looking for the source to determine if they can or should do something. And we hate it when someone sits around waiting for backup while people die. Thank God for the people like Ryan Keith Cox in our country.

2. That phrase "Put your armor on" is a very biblical and very apt phrase for our men and women serving in these areas. The same idiot complaining about what VP Pence is saying would be damning the military if something went wrong and they hadn't been prepared, if their armor wasn't on. Because, as VP Pence said, that day is coming! For our military, there is always a day coming and we need to be prepared for it.
12 posted on 06/04/2019 5:57:38 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: cba123

He used to say it on MSNBC.


13 posted on 06/04/2019 6:02:46 AM PDT by TakebackGOP
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To: Kaslin

“Do Trump’s Hawks speak for Trump?”

No.

Neither do they speak for the voter’s who put Mr Trump into the Presidency.


14 posted on 06/04/2019 6:09:18 AM PDT by CharleysPride (Peace, Freedom and Prosperity. Thank you, President Trump.)
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To: TakebackGOP

Whatever.

I seriously doubt that, at least the way you portrayed it. Buchanan is not a “blame America first” person.

He just isn’t.

But I’m not a huge MSNBC fan.

:)


15 posted on 06/04/2019 6:15:08 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: miss marmelstein

I just don’t see the evidence that Trump is dying to invade countries despite Bolton being at the WH.

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Trump seems to be a man predisposed towards non-intervention, but if you surround yourself with too many hawks your judgement can be clouded. The more I here Pence speak, the more I don’t like. He was poor spokesperson for Conservatism when he was governor and now he just sounds like a war-mongering fool.


16 posted on 06/04/2019 6:22:11 AM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: wbarmy

Doesn’t seem like anyone is speaking softly in the entire outfit. And the more I see the less convinced I am about a stick of more than modest dimensions.


17 posted on 06/04/2019 6:24:39 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: cba123

No, but Buchanan is very openly a “blame the Jews” person.


18 posted on 06/04/2019 6:26:18 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: babble-on

When you are dealing with most of these actors, you do not need a really big stick. Just one properly directed JDAM would ruin Kim Jung Uns whole life. Same with the leadership of Iran, they are actually very easy to get to and they know it.

All of these bad actors are used to US leaders who speak softly and hide the stick. President Trump has decided to try something different.


19 posted on 06/04/2019 6:30:25 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: babble-on

I think that Buchanan catches a lot of flack from people who are a tiny bit too focused on “the Jews”.

I am (not) entirely convinced, it is well-deserved.

Your views may differ. :)


20 posted on 06/04/2019 6:42:07 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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