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IT PASSED: Swing State Votes to Give Electoral Votes to Winner of Popular Vote
Young Conservatives ^ | May 22, 2019 | Editorial Staff

Posted on 05/22/2019 10:20:46 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

That map looks like what the country in the Hunger Games might look like.

All the “small” states in the middle that have no vote must produce and provide for those in the other four states.


61 posted on 05/22/2019 11:43:00 AM PDT by 21twelve (!)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

President Snow from The Hunger games approves.


62 posted on 05/22/2019 11:45:38 AM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: Starboard

I will have to look at the elements of the offense to be sure, but this does touch on the overthrow of the United States government (by subverting the constitutional election process) and that is treason.


63 posted on 05/22/2019 11:49:26 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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To: Pilgrim's Progress
"So, they can just vote away the Constitution."

No. This scheme is specifically designed to comply with the constitution. That's the point of it.

64 posted on 05/22/2019 11:49:30 AM PDT by mlo
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; ...
The compact would take effect after states totaling 270 electoral votes, and with Nevada, the total would reach 195.
from the other topic I saw.

65 posted on 05/22/2019 11:51:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: mlo

Can you point me to a website or provide a link where the “this is constitutional” rationale is spelled out?


66 posted on 05/22/2019 11:51:33 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

If this compact passes, expect them to do a neck-breaking about face in repealing their law if Trump wins the popular vote.


67 posted on 05/22/2019 11:56:06 AM PDT by fwdude (Think about it: Blacks were made slaves in Africa, but were made free men in America.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

these idiots will be the first to scream for a lawsuit if Trump wins the popular vote. Trump may end up with 500 electoral votes if he does win the popular vote. And these are all Democrat states shooting themselves in the foot so actually not one thing has changed.


68 posted on 05/22/2019 11:58:16 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: Captain Rhino
"Can you point me to a website or provide a link where the “this is constitutional” rationale is spelled out?"

No, I can tell you. The constitutional system of electoral votes is not changed by this. Even under the compact, each state is picking it's prescribed set of electors and they are voting for the President. All that's changed is the method by which the electors are chosen. And there, the constitution gives the state legislatures carte blanche. Each state may pick its electors by whatever method each decides. They don't have to even hold an election and could instead simply pass a resolution giving the state's electors to a candidate.

Since this scheme only changes how states pick their electors, not what the electors do or how the system works, there's nothing unconstitutional about it.

69 posted on 05/22/2019 12:02:28 PM PDT by mlo
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
This will end any chance that candidates will ever visit small lightly populated states. Why ever go to Nevada when the heavy harvest of votes in the top ten states will determine how Nevada’s electoral votes go? Ditto Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Nebraska, Iowa, Montana, Dakotas, Hawaii, DC., etc.
70 posted on 05/22/2019 12:08:01 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Power is more often surrendered than seized.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

As the article alludes, if this passes Constitutional muster there will be a big rise in 3rd (and 4th and 5th and 6th) parties. Individual candidates and parties will campaign heavily in just a small number of states, such that no single person will ever win the popular vote by more than 50%. Imagine how the country will react when a person who got 35% of the vote is ‘anointed’ by these states.


71 posted on 05/22/2019 12:10:33 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

As the article alludes, if this passes Constitutional muster there will be a big rise in 3rd (and 4th and 5th and 6th) parties. Individual candidates and parties will campaign heavily in just a small number of states, such that no single person will ever win the popular vote by more than 50%. Imagine how the country will react when a person who got 35% of the vote is ‘anointed’ by these states.


72 posted on 05/22/2019 12:10:35 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

This magnifies the reason why if we do not get elections purified to have required picture ID plus voting on one day with no absentee ballots except for military and no early or late voting and no mail in ballots and requirements that voters must show up at the polls in person and be verified by positive ID, the Republicans have won their last national election. As it is the largest SocialDemocrat controlled city in each state will determine the total vote for the state, which in Republican states will be a significantly higher vote total than eligible voters in the state. The concept was dry run in 2016 and 18 in a few states and received no actual blowback i.e. they got away with it clean. It will be done with wild abandon in 2020 and the Republicans can be counted on to simply accept their total extinction in national politics.


73 posted on 05/22/2019 12:12:25 PM PDT by arthurus (c v bmmm)
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To: gibsonguy
It is a very bad idea but I doubt it is unconstitutional. The Constitution gives great deference to the States in the election of the president. That is by design, part of the federalist structure of the Founders intent. The original idea was for the president, limited in his powers, to be answerable to the States, not to the mass of people directly.

If any of the several States decide to appoint their electors by this system, they are empowered to do. To be sure, the Founders would be bashing their heads into their desks if they ever knew this hare-brained scheme had a ghost of a chance of being enacted.

74 posted on 05/22/2019 12:14:53 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Power is more often surrendered than seized.)
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To: jz638

That’s one reason why I can’t think this will pass Constitutional muster. So if the people of Nevada vote in a clear majority (50%+) for a candidate who doesn’t win the popular vote, a couple of state legislators have decided that their votes don’t count? It is disenfranchisement of the highest order - something I thought Democrats were railing against.

Just another example that Democrats want power at any cost, and another example of their psychological projection. They run around crying, without evidence, that voter ID laws are disenfranchising citizens while in fact they are pushing to disenfranchise the will of the voters of entire states.


75 posted on 05/22/2019 12:16:28 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Hostage

The USSC won’t hear this case until there are enough States signing on to actually have it take effect.

Hey have always to go. All the usual States have signed on but it gets tough to impossible from here on out.

Also a State signing on can easily remove itself if the control of its Legislature or Governorship should change hands and decide to vote themselves out.


76 posted on 05/22/2019 12:17:00 PM PDT by billyboy15
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To: Not A Snowbird

“It will be delicious when Trump wins the 2020 popular vote and all these blue/purple states go to him”

That won’t happen, because all these stupid laws don’t actually go into effect until the states that pass them have enough electoral votes to have a majority. In other words, they don’t change anything unless the whole coalition would win every election anyway, in which case the laws still would affect nothing. It’s all hot air.


77 posted on 05/22/2019 12:20:22 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Durbin

They should save time and just pass a resolution that their state’s electors will always vote for the democrat national nominee.


78 posted on 05/22/2019 12:21:26 PM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: Pilgrim's Progress
So,they can just vote away the Constitution.

NO,There will have to be a Constitutional Convention

79 posted on 05/22/2019 12:22:08 PM PDT by mabarker1 (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: All

Domocrars coming up with a new way to cheat on National Elections.


80 posted on 05/22/2019 12:27:56 PM PDT by Retvet (Retvet)
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