Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

‘So Help Me God’ No More: Democrats Give House Traditions a Makeover [barf alert]
New York Slimes ^ | May 11, 2019 | Catie Edmondson

Posted on 05/15/2019 7:47:49 AM PDT by Olog-hai

The witness rose from her seat, raised her right hand, and swore to tell the truth before Congress.

But four words were missing: “So help me God.”

In the House of Representatives, to the winner go the spoils, and Democrats, the new decision makers, control everything, including what legislation gets a vote and the minutiae of procedural choices, such as whether witnesses must utter the traditional plea for divine aid. Democratic chairmen and chairwomen of several key committees have deemed no such entreaty is necessary.

“I think God belongs in religious institutions: in temple, in church, in cathedral, in mosque — but not in Congress,” said Representative Steve Cohen of Tennessee, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee’s Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties. What Republicans are doing, he continued, “is using God.”

“And God doesn’t want to be used,” he said.

No surprise, Republican lawmakers are staging a form of protest, jumping in when they can to point out each omission in real time. …

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 116th; cohen; democrats; godlessleft; liberalagenda; oathofoffice; satanincongress; sohelpmegod; speakerpelosi; stevecohen
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-27 next last

1 posted on 05/15/2019 7:47:49 AM PDT by Olog-hai
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

The constitution does not have “so help me God” in the oath. It appears that for whatever reason, Washington added it when he took the oath.


2 posted on 05/15/2019 7:52:36 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

Communists belong in the ground, not public office


3 posted on 05/15/2019 7:52:40 AM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mrmeyer

Next we’ll get rid of “In God We Trust”.

Eventually, we’ll get to “Allah be praised!”

Then they’ll be satisfied.


4 posted on 05/15/2019 7:57:10 AM PDT by CondorFlight
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: mrmeyer

:: Communists belong in the ground, not public office ::

Leon Trotsky was unavailable for comment.


5 posted on 05/15/2019 7:59:16 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Leon Trotsky was unavailable for comment.

Only good thing Stalin ever did.

6 posted on 05/15/2019 7:59:45 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai
I read that they substituted “Saul Alinsky” for “God”.
7 posted on 05/15/2019 8:02:42 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Barr:The Bill Belichick of Attorneys General)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

“And God doesn’t want to be used.”, so says God’s spokesman.


8 posted on 05/15/2019 8:02:53 AM PDT by trublu
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

If I ever had to testify, I would add “so help me God”.


9 posted on 05/15/2019 8:04:42 AM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

This idiot needs to pull a dollar bill from his pocket and read.


10 posted on 05/15/2019 8:05:45 AM PDT by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

What Republicans are doing, he continued, “is using God.”

“And God doesn’t want to be used,” he said.

Actually they are calling on God to witness their
truthfulness.

Anyway who is he to say what God wants?


11 posted on 05/15/2019 8:08:59 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

“Do you swear to tell the truth, so help you God?”
“To the extent there is a God, yes. In other words, no.”
“I hate this job.”


12 posted on 05/15/2019 8:14:46 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: grobdriver

Not for long. The national motto, “In God We Trust,”
has been replaced by, “You Owe Me An Apology.”


13 posted on 05/15/2019 8:16:25 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai
(So help me God)
14 posted on 05/15/2019 8:31:09 AM PDT by yoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai
GODLESS NATIONS FALL!

15 posted on 05/15/2019 8:51:24 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Mueller Report: Donald Trump is the most uncorrupted President in US history!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

Democrats at 2012 convention vote against GOD 3 times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9ha9o24Pfw


16 posted on 05/15/2019 8:52:40 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

Dems are more into allah


17 posted on 05/15/2019 9:48:02 AM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

As if this is where they wish to stop.

No, they stop when the current government is tossed overboard for Stalin’s idea of perfection, with Sharia law tossed in for good measure.

After all, Islam has brought the world so many wonderful things. /s


18 posted on 05/15/2019 10:43:41 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Can I get a shout out for the person(s) who donated $2,000.00 from France? Thanks so much! Wow!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sacajaweau

“The constitution does not have ‘so help me God’ in the oath. It appears that for whatever reason, Washington added it when he took the oath.”

The mystery of such acts is easily resolved by the understanding that neither the Constitution nor the Declaration of Independence were ever intended to create the laws of our nation from scratch (though they did form the basis for doing so going forward). Like all nations that proceeded it, America began with the solid foundations of both natural law and common law.

The Constitution specifies a power to Congress to “define and punish... offenses against the Law of Nations”. This is a reference to the Principles of Natural Law.

Though the modern legal profession has essentially changed the meaning of the term “common law”, the founders had a very particular way of looking at it. Here is a quote from Charles E. Carpenter in Columbia Law Review I lifted from wikipedia: “From the earliest times through the late 19th century, the dominant theory was that the common law was a pre-existent law or system of rules, a social standard of justice that existed in the habits, customs, and thoughts of the people.”

So, it was understood that an oath of affirmation meant solemnly swearing and concluding the affirmed statement with “so help me God.” Provisions can be found historically for exceptions made for those who believed they should not take oaths, such as the Quakers.

So, the Democrats are openly hostile to God, wishing to invent new traditions that support their delusions. It is very clear how they would govern if given unchecked power: they would be the worst sorts of despots and tyrants—no different than the many that have gone before them.

They make sweeping changes on a whim that impact people’s lives in dramatic ways, but they assert that their actions are the moral and right thing to do, and if there are unintended consequences they can just fix those with another wave of the hand. In other words, we no longer have the rule of law but the rule of tyrants. I can think of no better example of this than the imposition of “gay marriage” and “transgender rights”. In their warped view of reality it is perfectly ok to punish people for what they perceive is wrong thinking: in other words, thought crimes.

Such twisted beliefs are naturally alienated from traditional beliefs regarding family, faith, and morality. While it is obvious to anyone that exposing children to such depraved practices (by granting parental rights to people who should have them taken upon discovery of such perversions), to them children need to be “protected” from religious views of Christianity (but it is apparently ok to indoctrinate them with other religious views found in Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Wicca, and Satanism.)

The Democrats spurious and careless trifling with law, tradition, and common morality underpins a pattern of destroying and dismantling our nation through another law: the one of unintended consequences. In a similar way as this present claim, there is also no law that makes English our nation’s official language. And who is in charge of determining the rules of the English language anyway? Should there be a federal agency for this? (I probably shouldn’t give the Democrats such crazy ideas, as they might actually take this seriously.) Suppose that tomorrow the Democrats decided that all business going forward would be conducted in the Klingon language because doing otherwise is outdated and divisive. Or suppose they decided that calling Sunday by its given name was a carryover of sun worship and an unlawful or unreasonable blending of church and state.

Bottom line: the Democrats are forcing their insanity upon our society and, in the process, doing incredible destruction and damage to our institutions.


19 posted on 05/15/2019 10:48:43 AM PDT by unlearner (War is coming.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

“And God doesn’t want to be used,” he said. Another liberal claiming to be a direct spokesman of God, when, in fact, it’s the liberals who mock those who claim to speak to God through prayer. Just another lib unwittingly trying to have it both ways, acknowledging that God exists while claiming he doesn’t belong, implying, of course, that He doesn’t exist.


20 posted on 05/15/2019 10:56:20 AM PDT by DPMD
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-27 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson