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Alabama passes near-total abortion ban with no exceptions for rape or incest: 25 to 6 vote...
DAILY MAIL UK ^ | May 14, 2019 | Rod Ardehali For Dailymail.com

Posted on 05/14/2019 8:20:28 PM PDT by Morgana

FULL TITLE: Alabama passes near-total abortion ban with no exceptions for rape or incest: 25 to 6 vote becomes most restrictive anti-abortion measure passed since Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973

Alabama lawmakers passed a bill on Tuesday banning nearly all abortions, including those in rape and incest cases.

The 25 to six vote makes it the most restrictive anti-abortion measure passed since the landmark Roe v. Wade case in 1973, which ruled that depriving women of the right to an abortion except to save the mother's life was unconstitutional.

Under the Alabama bill, the only exceptions are to safeguard the health of the mother, while doctors could face 10 years in prison for attempting an abortion and 99 years for actually carrying out the procedure.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: 3rdthread; abortion; alabama; prolife; roevswade; scotus
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To: Gene Eric

I believe that a person who suffers a rape, a real rape, not date rape, etc., should have the right to terminate a pregnancy that might occur - provided this is done within a short period of time. In such circumstances I think the victim’s rights are paramount.


41 posted on 05/15/2019 1:52:13 AM PDT by Chengdu54
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To: wastedyears

You cant force anyone to give birth. That’s like claiming I forced you to breathe.


42 posted on 05/15/2019 1:54:34 AM PDT by Theophilus (Make America Grateful Again)
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To: Chengdu54

God forbid we should murder babies for their father’s alleged crimes.


43 posted on 05/15/2019 2:02:07 AM PDT by Theophilus (Make America Grateful Again)
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To: dp0622

We are not God, ruling over all evil, but we can certainly enforce His commandment against murder to the best of our ability. That’s why he gave us law and government.


44 posted on 05/15/2019 2:05:38 AM PDT by Theophilus (Make America Grateful Again)
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To: Morgana

It is time for our society to stop allowing women to murder babies.

JoMa


45 posted on 05/15/2019 2:06:50 AM PDT by joma89
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To: wastedyears

Under 15 age group accounts for less than .3% of all abortions. Rape as a reason for abortion accounts for less than .5% of all abortions.

Florida keeps more detailed stats. Incest as a reason accounts for less than .001% of all abortions in Florida.


46 posted on 05/15/2019 3:42:19 AM PDT by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: Morgana; JLS; bamahead; EdReform; saleman; Southack; kosciusko51; Bryan24; blam; Jemian; ...

Ping to the State list.


47 posted on 05/15/2019 3:56:07 AM PDT by Jemian (Walls work and Walls Save Lives.)
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To: wastedyears
I see no reason a 13-year-old should give birth to a sister-daughter.

Here's one: It's the child-molester father that needs to die.

48 posted on 05/15/2019 5:11:39 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( "The Owl" eats RATs for breakfast!)
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To: Morgana

Excellent point. Legal abortion provides a cover-up for in-family rape. Rapist4Choice.


49 posted on 05/15/2019 5:23:38 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: dp0622

You always give me a headache.


50 posted on 05/15/2019 5:26:51 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: al_c

Thanks for a few stats.

You would think that all abortions stem from rape and incest - even on FR you get that nonsense. Alabama is trying to overthrow Roe vs. Wade - let’s see how far they get.


51 posted on 05/15/2019 5:28:40 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

I don’t mean to lol

I’m AGAINST abortion, even in THIS case.

I’m just saying, I give a bunch of time to a couple of hispanic kids in the Bronx and we all should do what we can.

If we want them born, then we gotta help them along the way.


52 posted on 05/15/2019 5:29:48 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR)
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To: miss marmelstein

Plus my mom’s been saying the same thing since I was 8 :)


53 posted on 05/15/2019 5:30:12 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR)
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To: dp0622; Mrs. Don-o

Anecdotal evidence cuts both ways, which is why principles must be argued from a philosophical stance to begin with.

It’s not about whether we feel moral, or what will ultimately come of the person’s life (for not everyone has an equal starting place, but neither are they intrinsically defined by where they start out, nor by what kind of parents they have).

The question is simple: is the killing of an innocent child right or wrong?

The answer to that question is what will inform everything else you believe or advocate on the subject of abortion.


54 posted on 05/15/2019 5:35:01 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.)
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To: dp0622

It’s that same old liberal crap that right-wingers absorb along with mother’s milk: conservatives don’t care about “born babies.” But how many Christian churches help out the poor and indigent? Where I live every single one provides either breakfast, lunch or dinner during the week and always on a Sunday for the poor and indigent. There are clothes drives every month and no doubt there is free babysitting/childcare for young, poor mothers. Stop buying into false narratives.


55 posted on 05/15/2019 5:37:12 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

Point taken.

I still like helping the kids :)

And feeding kids and getting them clothes has NOTHING to do with the environment they are growing up in.

Would your kids have been good enough with just food and clothes and NO guidance or concern besides that?


56 posted on 05/15/2019 5:39:32 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR)
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To: dp0622

Yes. Anything is better than being dismembered in the womb with a pair of butchering shears.

Why are you on FR if you believe in abortion for poor kiddies??


57 posted on 05/15/2019 5:42:46 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Morgana

It’s heartbreaking reading some of these responses justifying abortion. For a supposedly conservative group, far too many of you have been sucked into the vortex of the liberal mindset and their brainwashing tactics.

People, stand up and think. How can you honestly believe that adding the killing of an infant life will ever erase the horrors of a rape?

Read up on stories of women in that situation, those who kept their babies, adopted them out or aborted them. You’ll find that the real stories don’t match up to the imaginations the liberal crowd has shoved down your throats.

Stop allowing them to set the agenda, especially your agenda.


58 posted on 05/15/2019 5:47:31 AM PDT by cyclotic
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To: cyclotic

Good post.

The human heart is weak and we can find all kinds of ways to try to justify things that are wrong. But the murder of 60 million innocent babies cannot be justified. People need to bite the bullet and say “Abortion is wrong. We need to end it. We will deal with the consequences.” To take any other stance is to give up on morality.


59 posted on 05/15/2019 5:51:20 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Morgana
In a perfect world, I'd support this law. I fear that it will be voted down by Supreme Court justices who have a history of neither being true social conservatives nor adhering to the Constitution. That's why I'd prefer going ahead with the heartbeat law, perhaps with a two week window.

Longterm, that would have the effect of having more women choosing life, not being bullied by "friends" into killing their pre-separation infant. I do have a suspicion that a lot of the most rabid "pro-choice" maniacs are that way because they're trying to justify having had abortions.

JMHO

60 posted on 05/15/2019 5:56:44 AM PDT by grania ("We're all just pawns in their game")
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