You obviously wasn't here in 2008. FR actually played a role in Rudy finishing poorly in the GOP primaries. Even Ron Paul kicked his ass.
Rudy said he left the 2008 race due to recovery issues from his cancer treatment. Hmmm. I do recall him doing very poorly in an early primary state. January of 2008, I believe.
Many were surprised he didn’t get more support.
Ah yes, The Rooty Rooters. I remember it well.
You were once a Rudy fan who opposed folks you guys called SoCons and Paleos
We just went over this on the Howlin has passed away thread yesterday
Folks like me and those I pinged
No worries I was banned when Mad Ivan and the exodus happened over Rudy which ending up as a cannibalized effort by the very same folks who caused so much derision here Howlin among them
Howlin and Sinkspur and Dane were instrumental in seeing a number of us were given the boot in 2005
We came back in 2007 after the Rudy thingie
Rudy would have made a poor President from a conservative perspective
Jim Robinson was right about Rudy Andy it cost him a lot of members,
We won EEE albeit with the unlikeliest of candidates I admit
I think most of us simply knew early on Trump would fight back and had common sense
My side here...no question about it.
But I fear we lost the war for America’s future
It’s heartrending to realize this forum was on the wrong side of immigration when it counted
I’m not picking on you but I want to ask what did you learn from all this?
My positions are virtually the same since 2002 and 95% since 1980
You are still here and for good reason...not that it matters what I think
Many of the Rudy folks are gone
Did they become Hillary supporters or anti Trumpers
Who knows
Quite a few were not in my view conservatives but rather agent provocateurs here declaring folks who opposed amnesty as racist and so forth
Sinkspur for example who I always suspected is now a full blown democrat on Twitter
A good works catholic in love with Pope Francis
Like we couldn’t tell when he was here
Hattip pelham
Hchutch...a nevertrumper
If we took the time to run them down that’s likely the result
But you’re not any of that
And I don’t want to give that impression
Nor is Abby or another lady I’m fond of here ...Miss resident
...in case they see my bloviating
Hell I like Rudy as a prosecutor and mayor
I was in Manhattan rigjt before his tenure ....he did make a difference