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Trump says America is 'full' but this US state says 'not us'
BBC News ^ | May 8, 2019 | By Rupa Shenoy

Posted on 05/09/2019 7:19:44 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

... Despite President Donald Trump saying "our country is full" earlier this month during a visit to the US southern border, if Vermont wants to improve its economy, it needs to bring in more people.

But the New England state has two problems. It doesn't have enough people to do the jobs it already has, and it doesn't know how to attract people of a different demographic from Vermont's current population, which is nearly 95% white.

Under the Trump administration's policies, there are fewer refugees, immigrants and temporary visa workers coming into the state.

Joan Goldstein - commissioner of the Vermont Department of Economic Development - says the race is on. States across the US are competing to attract new residents, she says.

"I know that sounds very mercenary but we're in a competitive marketplace," she says. "Vermont's marketing strategy for decades was white, heterosexual males with family incomes of $120,000 (£92,000) or more. That population is shrinking."

Vermont has made a big change in their approach, she says. Instead of just trying to attract businesses to the state, they're now appealing directly to individuals.

"Other states have asked us how we did this because they're also interested in some of the same types of tactics," she says. "So clearly, even though it's a departure, it's probably going to be more mainstream soon."

This year Vermont began handing out $10,000 (£7,600) for certain workers who move to remote parts of the state.

"There was significant interest from outside the US on the initial publicity hit we had," she says.

"I would say close to 25% of people coming in with inquiries were from other countries."

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: aliens; bbcfakenews; demographics; fakenews; illegals; immigration
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1 posted on 05/09/2019 7:19:44 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Fine, become Vermontistahn then...


2 posted on 05/09/2019 7:21:41 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
This year Vermont began handing out $10,000

I finally bought my wife a new (one year old) car largely because we are outside of the rust belt, where salt can do $10,000 worth of damage in just a few years. I do NOT miss New England/upper midwest weather.
3 posted on 05/09/2019 7:22:27 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Don’t worry about how to attract them. We hear uncle burnee has plenty of space available for some of his southern buddies to stay. Greyhound still goes to VT don’t they. And, shouldn’t tickets be FREE?


4 posted on 05/09/2019 7:23:31 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Vermont was once very nice. Then the liberals moved in and made it super liberal. Now they want to totally destroy it.


5 posted on 05/09/2019 7:23:34 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Happy Ramadamadingong! twice the usual number of virgins this month! Allahu foobar.)
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To: I want the USA back

Vermont proves my point that there are too many Northeastern states, they should be consolidated.


6 posted on 05/09/2019 7:24:42 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

TRUMP’S FAULT


7 posted on 05/09/2019 7:25:02 AM PDT by goodnesswins (White Privilege EQUALS Self Control & working 50-80 hrs/wk for 40 years!)
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To: goodnesswins

Charter some buses and send them to Texas. They will gladly fill them up for you.


8 posted on 05/09/2019 7:27:19 AM PDT by muskah
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Vermont’s marketing strategy for decades was white, heterosexual males with family incomes of $120,000 (£92,000) or more. That population is shrinking.”

...

The War On White Heterosexual Males is working.


9 posted on 05/09/2019 7:27:34 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Facts are racist.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We got Millions of Illegal Aliens anxious to work here in California you can have and I am willing to sponsor one way travel for 10 right now.

Why don’t they run an AD campaign here in California, they should easily get the people they desire, MS 13 ONLY!!


10 posted on 05/09/2019 7:28:12 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: I want the USA back

It’s nicknamed “Vomit” for a reason...


11 posted on 05/09/2019 7:28:20 AM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“...and it doesn’t know how to attract people of a different demographic from Vermont’s current population, which is nearly 95% white.:

Okay, why does it have to be a different demographic?

Historically, people move to where the jobs are. If the pay is attractive, it will attract people.


12 posted on 05/09/2019 7:29:07 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Maybe Joan Goldstein should move some Somalian Moslems into her home to add to Vermont’s population. What could go wrong?


13 posted on 05/09/2019 7:32:46 AM PDT by cdcdawg (If white, western culture makes you feel out of place, THAT IS BECAUSE IT IS NOT YOUR PLACE!)
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LOL, Vermont has to attract Scandinavians, its their kind of country. It doesn’t have the Mediterranean and Southern temperature that most people are coming from. Who wants to do sap withdrawal and get frost bite, or get up at 4:30 a.m. to milk the cows. Add plowing the fields, growing the hay and corn, and then processing both. What else is up there besides Colleges? Its been 20 years since I was up there. Spent lots of time in the Burlington area, the text tile industry was dormant. Skiing is seasonal, and so are the summer yuppies. Maybe they can bring in some industry, look what Hillary did for NYS, she brought in a chicken processing plant. I’m sure Bernie can do the same for Vermont.


14 posted on 05/09/2019 7:33:38 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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Ms. Goldstein. Keep it up, Vermont; these kind of people want to destroy you.


15 posted on 05/09/2019 7:42:25 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Is Vermont SO stupid as to think the uneducated illegals can do the jobs?
Dear me


16 posted on 05/09/2019 7:42:38 AM PDT by RWGinger (Does anyone else really)
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There is a huge opioid problem and much poverty in Vermont.
Five acre zoning keeps the riff-raff out.
17 posted on 05/09/2019 7:47:29 AM PDT by metesky (My investment program is holding steady @ $0.05 cents a can.)
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There’s not enough global warming for me to move there and there never will be. Festering liberal pile of... well, you get my point.


18 posted on 05/09/2019 7:52:15 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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"I know that sounds very mercenary but...white, heterosexual males with family incomes of $120,000 (£92,000) or more [are] shrinking."

--Joan Goldstein

19 posted on 05/09/2019 7:52:51 AM PDT by gaijin
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"I think it's really unfortunate that we've heard statements recently like 'America is full,' 'there's no more room at the inn,'" Mr Winters says. "I can tell you there's plenty of room in Vermont."

I am not unfamiliar with Vermont, I used to ski there every weekend I could in the 1970s and early 80s. Even then one could see the encroachment of condominiums and shopping centers. This encroachment represents more than merely eyesores, this represents more than a change in architecture, it portends a fundamental change in the culture and, finally, a real change in what we mean by liberty. Some years ago I wrote this reply:

The population of the United States has doubled in my father's lifetime and redoubled in my lifetime. This is not an arithmetic but an exponential rate of growth which cannot be sustained for very many more generations, this business about every living soul standing on a square meter of unproductive sand in Texas to the contrary notwithstanding.

My concern about exploding population is not offered out of Hobbesian theories of want but out of real fears concerning liberty. Even assuming we are theoretically capable of feeding billions more people, are we actually able to do so as a free people operating in a free market in a free society? Or are the leftists right when they say that the problem is too much freedom and not enough organization? Are we populating ourselves into a statist dystopia?

Nathan Bedford's Maxim: the more population density, the less liberty.

Look about you and consider how the left has compressed our liberties in the last three quarters of a century. Think of the strictures placed upon you for the environment. For example, it is no longer legal to burn a wood stove in parts of California. It is now the federal government that tells you as a rancher in Wyoming whether you could have a pond out back for geese and ducks. Your ability to charge rent in your New York City apartments has been controlled for decades by the government because of overcrowding. Your right to shoot a deer has been severely restricted and regulated and taxed. Your right to shoot a deer or a bear may have been entirely eliminated and there are no resemblance to the America of my forefathers who actually went hunting with Daniel Boone. The size of the toilet you flush and the bulb with which you illuminate the darkness is no longer a matter of choice.

The list is endless, indeed there is virtually no area of your life that is not currently regulated by the federal government or the state government and much of that is justified by the need to protect your neighbor from you. You also want the government to protect you from your neighbor, that is why we have zoning ordinances for example. All of these things come with density of population. A density of population which we might be able to feed but can we endure? Can we endure as free men? Can we feed them as free men?

Since writing that reply these points are increasingly salient at a time when we do not need masses of worker bees to produce. Indeed, masses of less than optimally trained or educated workers will prove a mounting liability as we enter the age of artificial intelligence and robots.

A lovely state like Vermont does not need more people, it needs the right kind of entrepreneurs generating wealth by automated production done by as few human hands as possible.

I also saw what the likes of Bertie Sanders and Ben & Jerry's did to Burlington and to the rest of the state of Vermont. Population growth for its own sake or for short-term economic bubble is wrongheaded and the wrong kind of population growth can be a real threat to liberty.


20 posted on 05/09/2019 7:53:42 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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