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Coalition strikes on Raqqa 'killed 1,600 civilians'
BBC World News ^
| Apr. 25 , 2019
| BBC World News
Posted on 04/25/2019 11:54:35 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse
Welcome to war. Just like the fire bombing of Nazi cities which killed thousands of civilians, being a Muslim doesn’t make you exempt from being a casualty of war.
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posted on
04/25/2019 12:43:58 PM PDT
by
Lent
To: Robe
Islamist civilian = Someone that just dropped their AK-47 'Zactly what I was going to say.
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posted on
04/25/2019 12:56:06 PM PDT
by
TangoLimaSierra
(To the Left, The truth is Right Wing Extremism.)
To: LeoWindhorse
London, Coventry, Dresden, Hamburg, Berlin, Nagoya, Osaka, Tokyo, Hanoi, Haiphong, Belgrade, Baghdad ... War from the sky is indeed Hell for all on the ground, innocents included. But the difference in result compared with a city being destroyed by ground invasion is fewer tend to be killed from the air on both sides. Berlin and Manila 1945 are prime examples of what results from taking a city with ground forces. Even the toll in Hiroshima and Nagasaki pales in comparison with the literal millions who'd have died in a ground campaign on Honshu.
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posted on
04/25/2019 1:10:43 PM PDT
by
katana
To: TangoLimaSierra
Howsabout it was just a retaliation for the Easter attack on those many Christian Churches by their co-’religionists’.
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posted on
04/25/2019 1:14:34 PM PDT
by
Flintlock
("FIRST the Saturday people, THEN the Sunday people"--gee whatever do they mean by that?)
To: LeoWindhorse
I have no doubt plenty of civilians were blown to bits in coalition air strikes. Firstly, that is inevitable in war. Secondly, Goat effer State deliberately used civilians as human shields, did not wear uniforms, etc.
It seems to me that if you dont wish to be subject to the tender mercies of 7th century goat fornicators and then risk getting blown to pieces when the civilized world hits back to stop the infection right there, you should fight like hell to keep them out in the first place.
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posted on
04/25/2019 1:16:26 PM PDT
by
FLT-bird
To: LeoWindhorse
Do not assume the 1600 figure is anywhere close to accurate, even if you believe it justified if the correct figure actually is 1600.
To: LeoWindhorse
[Far better to obliterate these people from the air , like going after cockroaches with a can of Raid . They are truly not worth suffering ground combat casualties over .]
I’m inclined to agree. The point at which I start worrying about enemy civilian casualties is when they start to exceed 1b dead compared to 1 of our own. Maybe. Now, we shouldn’t start deliberately slaughtering enemy civilians out of the clear blue sky - it’s traumatic for our people. But if those civilians get in the way of our missions against ISIS - fire away. We should not sacrifice our soldiers in combat to virtue signal - the only justification for risking their lives is if allied/friendly civilians are being held hostage. If enemy civilians are in the way - they should understand that acting as human shields for the enemy has consequences.
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posted on
04/25/2019 1:27:28 PM PDT
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
To: Delta 21
One doesn’t have to be a photo analysist to see where the bombs fell, do we?
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posted on
04/25/2019 1:36:18 PM PDT
by
RedMonqey
(Welcome to Thunderdome... America 2019)
To: LeoWindhorse
the women who were transported out of Raqqa to camps have set up their own ‘morality police’ to harass and discipline the other women and children in the camps. They are also preaching jihad amongst themselves even as some plead with home countries to let them return as innocents. “Civilians” seems to be a stretch of reality.
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posted on
04/25/2019 1:40:45 PM PDT
by
blueplum
("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
To: Zhang Fei
I had hoped to see the use of tactical nukes on Raqqa .
Nothing would have pleased me more than to see mushroom clouds rise in that valley
To: blueplum
Anyone , men or women , still pushing ISIS behaviors in the Kurd commanded camps should be pulled from the crowd and shot on the spot. Don’t even bother with burying them . Shoot um and leave um.
To: LeoWindhorse
Had the US, and it’s allies not financed regime change in Syria, Raqqa wouldn’t have happened. The legitimate gov’t of Syria, under Bashar Assad, and Syria’s invited allies were perfectly capable of taking out the trash.
Secular, westernized Syria posed no threat to the United States.
Karma is going to bite the US in the butt one of these days.
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posted on
04/25/2019 2:18:51 PM PDT
by
sockmonkey
(I am an America First, not Israel First FReeper.)
To: RedMonqey
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posted on
04/25/2019 2:21:57 PM PDT
by
Delta 21
(Be strong & prosper, be weak & die! Stay true.... ~~ Donald J. Trump)
To: sockmonkey
I have to agree with you completly
This was 100% an Obama-Biden-Clinton foreign policy
instigation and failure . Syria also ties into what
happen in Libya and Benghazi .
Brennan included ; not one of these people has ever been
held accountable .
They left the shitstorm to trouble Trump .
To: LeoWindhorse
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posted on
04/25/2019 3:02:00 PM PDT
by
Nifster
(I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
To: LeoWindhorse
Well when you decide to have your home used as a shelter and storage for enemies, things happen.
To: LeoWindhorse
Heres a thought: lets talk about the RAFs carpet bombing of civilian population centers during WW II.
My guess is, the BBC was all for it.
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posted on
04/25/2019 4:55:57 PM PDT
by
hinckley buzzard
(Power is more often surrendered than seized.)
To: LeoWindhorse
Because, officially, they have no soldiers. Just concerned citizens with access to bombs and stuff.
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posted on
04/25/2019 6:17:43 PM PDT
by
robel
To: Mariner
And how do we Know they were civilians?
We dont.
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posted on
04/25/2019 6:37:18 PM PDT
by
Hulka
To: hinckley buzzard
Not really. Bomber Harris suffered sanction from government and military senI or leaders Heck it was only a few years ago that Bomber Command finally received their monument.
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posted on
04/25/2019 6:46:47 PM PDT
by
Hulka
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