Posted on 04/13/2019 12:14:20 PM PDT by Jacquerie
That response just reeks of lack of knowledge of the entire process, rules, history, and commitment of the Framers of the Constitution to add Article V of which ALL of them approved.
That statement is fear mongering and has no evidence whatever, because there is none.
== Convention rules ========================
Article V itself limits the convention to amendments ONLY.
The COS application limits amendment proposals to three areas ONLY.
COS Application>http://bit.ly/cosapplic
The 3-part Convention of States Platform
1. Impose fiscal restraints on the federal government
2. Limit the power and jurisdiction of the federal government.
3. Limit the terms of office for its officials
All the states have rules for the legislatures. They KNOW there are rules and they follow them.
Most use Mason’s Rules, a few use Roberts Rules of Order.
The first principle of parliamentary law states if a body exceeds it’s authority the act is “ineffective.”
https://youtu.be/49aeZH4x8Yk
There are proposals for even stiffer rules.
https://conventionofstates.com/files/proposed-convention-rules
Some states have, and more will as we get closer to a convention, pass “Faithful Delegate” rules, including delegate selection rules.
Indiana was the first and here those are. They include heavy penalties for the errant delegates and negation of anything they do outside their commission:
INDIANA’S LEGISLATIVE ACTION
Summary of Article V state delegate selection and limitation provisions added to Indiana law
https://wiki.conventionofstates.com/doku.php?id=documents:external:indianalegislation#full_text_of_indiana_s_legislation
Faithful Delegate Laws (All states with general Article V Delegate laws)
https://wiki.conventionofstates.com/doku.php?id=documents:external:faithfuldelegate
And that is only the convention proposal stage.
Ratification is by 3/4, and that is stiffer yet. That requires the approval of 38 states.
You said, among other things: “Just have your hand ready to receive an envelope when the Koch Brothers walk by.”
I don’t believe that. Show me the money trail, the receipts.
Instead the facts are that the left is against COS and therefore also Ben Shapiro
https://www.commoncause.org/our-work/constitution-courts-and-democracy-issues/article-v-convention/
The opposition: Soros, Common Cause, and more
https://conventionofstates.com/opposition
The Federal government IS following the current Constitution as changed by court decisions etc for over 200 years.
We need a COS and amendments to turn that back to at least closer to the original intent of the Framers.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kbn9qyngeoh9edl/Annotated_Constitution-SPINE.png?dl=0
Constitution Annotated> https://www.congress.gov/constitution-annotated/
COS tells you that because unlike you, they have researched the topic and are fully informed.
== Convention rules ========================
Article V itself limits the convention to amendments ONLY.
The COS application limits amendment proposals to three areas ONLY.
COS Application>http://bit.ly/cosapplic
The 3-part Convention of States Platform
1. Impose fiscal restraints on the federal government
2. Limit the power and jurisdiction of the federal government.
3. Limit the terms of office for its officials
All the states have rules for the legislatures. They KNOW there are rules and they follow them.
Most use Mason’s Rules, a few use Roberts Rules of Order.
The first principle of parliamentary law states if a body exceeds it’s authority the act is “ineffective.”
https://youtu.be/49aeZH4x8Yk
There are proposals for even stiffer rules.
https://conventionofstates.com/files/proposed-convention-rules
Some states have, and more will as we get closer to a convention, pass “Faithful Delegate” rules, including delegate selection rules.
Indiana was the first and here those are. They include heavy penalties for the errant delegates and negation of anything they do outside their commission:
INDIANA’S LEGISLATIVE ACTION
Summary of Article V state delegate selection and limitation provisions added to Indiana law
https://wiki.conventionofstates.com/doku.php?id=documents:external:indianalegislation#full_text_of_indiana_s_legislation
Faithful Delegate Laws (All states with general Article V Delegate laws)
https://wiki.conventionofstates.com/doku.php?id=documents:external:faithfuldelegate
And that is only the convention proposal stage.
Ratification is by 3/4, and that is stiffer yet.
Well then, we can rest assured that your assessment is not an informed one.
I know that because an Article V convention to Amend is NOT a Constitutional Convention.
And having gotten that wrong, you need not continue.
An Article V convention is NOT a Constitutional Convention.
https://wiki.conventionofstates.com/doku.php?id=documents:cosproject:surge:article_14-articlevconvention
https://www.dropbox.com/s/o8cj6r2es3cvjfz/DIFFERENCES_%20BETWEEN_A_CONSTITUTIONAL_CONVENTION_AND_AN_ARTICLE_V_CONVENTION.PNG?dl=0
“The Federal government IS following the current Constitution as changed by court decisions etc for over 200 years.”
I understand your meaning but I believe in and campaign for PRECISION in language. Court decisions do not actually CHANGE the constitution. They merely change PERCEPTION. AMENDMENTS are the only things that actually change the constitution and there is no point in passing amendments so long as we have judges who think that the constitution is a “living, breathing document.”
Shapiro must be fairly effective as all the leftists I know despise him almost as much as Trump
My favorite person in the world ...my nephew is a Millennial!! They’re out there.
Good!
He’s a farmer. That might be why. My whole family are farmers and they are all conservatives.
A conservative used to be a liberal that got mugged. A whole generation got mugged by China and their paid lackeys in the Democrat party and media.
Shapiro is doing great work educating millenials that they’ve been mugged.
Jay and the Young Americans.......
Gotta look em up. I’ve heard of them
I was joking, it was actually Jay and the Americans.....
LAUGHING AT ME AGAIN!!!
That’s going on too much around here!!
I’m telling Jim!!
:)
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