Posted on 03/11/2019 8:02:45 AM PDT by centurion316
By Susan Crabtree March 11, 2019 Ballot Harvesting Divide Persists Amid Elections Debate AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite
During last week’s fierce partisan debate over House Democrats’ campaign finance/elections and ethics overhaul, there was one thing Republicans and Democrats appeared to agree on: the dearth of information about ballot harvesting – the controversial practice of campaign workers, union members, and volunteers collecting mail-in ballots from voters and delivering them to election officials to be counted – and its impact on elections.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell criticized the Democratic measure, which was designed to make voting easier and which passed on a party-line vote, for not addressing “sketchy” ballot harvesting practices. The GOP leader pointed to the fraud uncovered in North Carolina’s 9th Congressional District, which both Democrats and Republicans have condemned.
It was illegal to collect absentee ballots in North Carolina because Republicans passed a law barring the practice. But some form of ballot harvesting takes place in 19 other states, where little or no data has been collected on the practice’s impact and abuses.
The Democrats’ bill, HR 1, is “suspiciously silent on the murky ballot harvesting practices that recently threw North Carolina’s 9th Congressional District into chaos,” McConnell said during a recent speech on the Senate floor.
Shortly after the midterms, then-House Speaker Paul Ryan made national headlines by calling the practice “bizarre” and arguing that what happened in California, where several seats in traditionally red Orange County flipped, “defies logic.” Several Republicans saw election night leads dwindle away in the days and weeks afterward as mail-in and absentee votes were counted. Three years ago the state legislature passed a law making it lawful for anyone to collect voters’ absentee ballots and drop them off.
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*** VOTE IN PERSON! ***
The easiest would be to just destroy the ballots, then there is no danger of attempting to forge the voter's signature on the outside of the envelope.
WE CAN'T ALL DO THAT! Nice that you want to take away voting rights of the sick, the old, the infirmed, or simply those taking vacation or must be out of town/country for work on election day.
With balloting harvesting, the ability to maintain the integrity of the election disappears. You will not have a chain of custody to ensure that a ballot was marked by a registered voter and then passed to an election official for counting. No one will know what happened between those critical steps and there is no way to validate that the vote was legitimate.
Voter rolls are public documents as well as a record of who has voted in previous elections. The easiest thing to do is to request an absentee ballot for registered voters who have not bothered to go to the polls for several years (about 50%). Then fill them out and turn them all in. Finding fraudulent ballots will be very difficult, especially since very few precincts really check signatures on absentee ballots with the signature on the voting rolls.
There is no chain of custody. This is ballot box stuffing by another name.
That horse is already out of the barn. And it's not required. I can conduct financial transactions on line and by the telephone with confidence on all sides that it is valid. It's easy. The problem with elections is that the Democrats want a crooked system and they have managed to arrange it in most states.
More efficient than ballot stuffing. This is the mass production of ballot fraud.
H.R.1 should properly be called, “Making Sure Democrats Never Lose Act”
We need federal legislation outlining a US wide system that applies to all states to use for federal elections. Specifying who can vote, required citizenship documentation, and local house to house precinct residency registration verification. Performed by a bi-partisan canvassed confirmation team. And No provisional, mail in, or same-day ballot issuance permitted.
WHY ARE WE ALLOWING CITIZENS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES
WHO ENTER US ILLEGALLY GRANT THEM RIGHTS
THAT THEIR COUNTRY DENY US HAVING
WHEN WE ENTER THEIRS LEGALLY TO VISIT OR RETIRE ???
It’s time we consider illegal entry by any person who is a non Mexican citizen illegally entering the United States through the US Mexican border a defacto Mexican citizen with limited Mexican constitutional rights subject to their laws while transiting. As well as any Mexican citizen entering illegaly exempting those who do so legally and meet US citizenship requirements. All subject to reciprocal citizen treatment a citizen of the United States receives in Mexico through the Mexican constitution on citizenship .
Besides being unable to vote one must also be a citizen to own land and Mexico is very restrictive about granting citizenship. Because of that a US citizen besides not being able to vote,and cannot have title in their name to any land property in Mexico. And until that is changed the US and the affected state should consider making that reciprocal. Prohibiting any illegal entrant employment, voting, and land ownership prvileges fully enforced .. .
We need federal legislation outlining a US wide system that applies to all states to use for federal elections. Specifying who can vote, required citizenship documentation, and local house to house precinct residency registration verification. Performed by a bi-partisan canvassed confirmation team. And No provisional, mail in, or same-day ballot issuance permitted.
WHY ARE WE ALLOWING CITIZENS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES
WHO ENTER US ILLEGALLY GRANT THEM RIGHTS
THAT THEIR COUNTRY DENY US HAVING
WHEN WE ENTER THEIRS LEGALLY TO VISIT OR RETIRE ???
It’s time we consider illegal entry by any person who is a non Mexican citizen illegally entering the United States through the US Mexican border a defacto Mexican citizen with limited Mexican constitutional rights subject to their laws while transiting. As well as any Mexican citizen entering illegaly exempting those who do so legally and meet US citizenship requirements. All subject to reciprocal citizen treatment a citizen of the United States receives in Mexico through the Mexican constitution on citizenship .
Besides being unable to vote one must also be a citizen to own land and Mexico is very restrictive about granting citizenship. Because of that a US citizen besides not being able to vote,and cannot have title in their name to any land property in Mexico. And until that is changed the US and the affected state should consider making that reciprocal. Prohibiting any illegal entrant employment, voting, and land ownership prvileges fully enforced .. .
That same integrity, or lack thereof, also is inherent in vote-by-mail, for the same reason, but a little more difficult. At least where I live, the county has set up secure drop-off spots for mail-in ballots, so there's a little more integrity than handing it to a ballot harvester or the U.S. Postal Service for supposed delivery to the election officials.
It was illegal to collect absentee ballots in North Carolina because Republicans passed a law barring the practice. But some form of ballot harvesting takes place in 19 other states...
IOW, the Demwits think we better fix problems in NC. Thanks centurion316.
The GOP response has been virtually silent. The numerous states that had elections blatantly stolen have issued no responses from local Republicans. It’s clear the media and the democrats are quick to mock any conservative who mentions voter fraud, but it’s time for them to press the issue before it’s too late.
“....The problem with elections is that the Democrats want a crooked system and they have managed to arrange it in most states....”
Yes, and these corrupt criminals will get at your vote any way they can. The best insurance that you can have is to put your ballot as close as possible to the voting machines. My feeling is that in the 2020 election, the Repubs will do as little as possible to prevent a crooked vote against Trump.
That means that laws passed by the 116th CONgress are #FakeLaws, and are not valid.
Since the elections were certified and they were seated when the 116th Congress convened, the fact that you have not recognized it does not seem to matter.
May your chains sit lightly...
Tough. Accommodating you makes it possible to steal every election.
You must be one of them ‘compassionate conservative.’
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