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If the Army Stands With Maduro, What Is Plan B?
Townhall.com ^ | January 29, 2019 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 01/29/2019 1:27:07 PM PST by Kaslin

"Pay the soldiers. The rest do not matter."

This was the deathbed counsel given to his sons by Roman Emperor Septimius Severus in A.D. 211.

Nicolas Maduro must today appreciate the emperor's insight.

For the political survival of this former bus driver and union boss hangs now upon whether Venezuela's armed forces choose to stand by him or to desert him and support National Assembly leader Juan Guaido.

Wednesday, Guaido declared Maduro's election last May to a second six-year term to be a sham, and had himself inaugurated as acting president.

Thursday, the defense minister and army chief General Vladimir Padrino Lopez, with his top brass, dismissed the 35-year-old Guaido as a U.S. puppet, and pledged allegiance to Maduro.

Friday, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told the U.N. Security Council: "Now it is time for every other nation to pick a side. ... Either you stand with the forces of freedom, or you're in league with Maduro and his mayhem."

By Friday, however, the world had already taken sides.

Russia and China stood by Maduro, as did NATO ally Turkey, with President Erdogan phoning his support. Mexico, Nicaragua, Cuba and Bolivia were also with Maduro.

Backing Guaido are Venezuela's neighbors Ecuador, Brazil and Colombia, the U.S. and Canada, and the Organization of American States.

Britain, France, Germany and Spain have sent Maduro a diplomatic ultimatum: Agree in eight days to new elections or we back the 35-year-old Guaido, who, until this year, was an unknown.

All options are on the table, says President Donald Trump. But Russia called Guaido's action a "quasi-coup" and warned that intervention could result in "catastrophic consequences." Vladimir Putin also phoned Maduro with his support.

The stakes for all sides here are huge. Russia has contractors in Venezuela and has lent the regime billions. In a show of solidarity, Putin recently flew two strategic bombers to Venezuela.

China has loaned Venezuela tens of billions, with Caracas paying Beijing back in oil.

Cuba has sent military and intelligence officers to maintain internal security. Hugo Chavez had seen in Fidel Castro a father figure and modeled his new Venezuela on Castro's Cuba -- with similar results.

Where hundreds of thousands fled Castro's revolution in the 1960s, three million Venezuelans have fled to Ecuador, Brazil, Colombia and other South American countries and the USA.

The economy is in a shambles. Though Venezuela has the largest oil reserves on earth, production is a fraction of what it once was. Cronyism and corruption are endemic. Inflation has destroyed the currency. There is poverty, malnutrition and shortages of every necessity of modern life.

Yet, still, the crucial question: What will the soldiers do? And if the military stands with Maduro, and Maduro refuses to go, what do the Americans do to force him out?

Invade? That would invite disaster. Venezuela is not Panama, Haiti or Grenada. Larger than Texas, its population is more than 30 million. And U.S. forces are already committed around the world.

A blockade and sanctions would magnify and deepen the suffering of the people of Venezuela long before they would bring down the regime. Would our allies support a blockade? And if years of suffering by the Venezuelan people have not shaken Maduro's hold on power, what makes us believe more of the same would persuade him?

Maduro and his army are being offered amnesty if they peacefully depart. But what would Maduro's fate be if he flees?

If he gives up power under U.S. threat, he is finished and disgraced as a coward. Would he not prefer to go down fighting?

And if the leadership of the army should abandon Maduro, there are younger ambitious officers who would surely see a rewarding future in fighting to save the regime.

Are we inviting a civil war in Venezuela? Should the shooting start in Caracas, what do we do then?

Did anyone think this through?

Maduro is an incompetent brutal dictator whose ideology has helped to destroy a nation. But if he can change the narrative from a confrontation between a tyrant and his persecuted people to that of an embattled defender of Venezuela being attacked by Yankee imperialists and their domestic lackeys, that could resonate among the masses in Latin America.

And from all indications, Maduro intends to defy the U.S. and rally the radicals and anti-Americans in the hemisphere and the Third World.

Guiado's constitutional claim to the presidency of Venezuela was a scheme cooked up in collusion with Washington, made in the USA, with Secretary of State Pompeo, John Bolton and Sen. Marco Rubio signing on, and President Trump signing off. This was Plan A.

But if Plan A does not succeed, and Maduro, with America's prestige on the line, defies our demand that he yield, what do we do then? What is Plan B?

"Assad must go!" said Barack Obama. Well, Assad is still there -- and Obama is gone.

Will the same be said of Maduro?


TOPICS: Cuba; Culture/Society; Editorial; Russia
KEYWORDS: cuba; maduro; mikepompeo; neocon; nicaragua; nicolasmaduro; putinsbuttboys; russia; venezuela
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1 posted on 01/29/2019 1:27:07 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Let Maduro wither on the vine


2 posted on 01/29/2019 1:30:04 PM PST by bert ( (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Honduras must be invaded to protect America from invasion)
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To: Kaslin

We need to develop a space deployed device that is individual human accurate and targetable .
Call it the Global Opposition Destroyer - G.O.D. for short ....


3 posted on 01/29/2019 1:32:19 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: Kaslin

Let the Army’s families starve then. Not my problem. Just keep their stupid commie voting asses south of here!


4 posted on 01/29/2019 1:33:24 PM PST by The Toll
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To: Kaslin

Give a Venezuelan a fish, and you feed him for a day.

Give a Venezuelan an automatic rifle, and he can kill the communist bastards starving his family and country.

Starving people easily become guerillas.


5 posted on 01/29/2019 1:34:54 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Kaslin

Sometime what happens is a member of the armed forces family member gets caught in cross fire and that member takes it upon himself to avenge that family member.


6 posted on 01/29/2019 1:35:16 PM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: Kaslin

Plan B is to let the Venezuelans get out of their own mess.
They repeatedly voted for socialism and having someone else save their bacon is no incentive for them to not to do it again.


7 posted on 01/29/2019 1:35:28 PM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: Kaslin

I’m on the side of America, Mike. If other nations are or are not free isn’t our problem

If Maduro is a problem for the USA with which we need to reckon , then it doesn’t matter what other nations think


8 posted on 01/29/2019 1:38:39 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: sparklite2

I would argue that the current evidence is that the Venezuelan people did not actually vote for the socialists.

Like California, the elections were stolen


9 posted on 01/29/2019 1:39:17 PM PST by bert ( (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Honduras must be invaded to protect America from invasion)
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To: Kaslin

[ Russia and China stood by Maduro, as did NATO ally Turkey, with President Erdogan phoning his support. Mexico, Nicaragua, Cuba and Bolivia were also with Maduro.

Backing Guaido are Venezuela’s neighbors Ecuador, Brazil and Colombia, the U.S. and Canada, and the Organization of American States.

Britain, France, Germany and Spain have sent Maduro a diplomatic ultimatum: Agree in eight days to new elections or we back the 35-year-old Guaido, who, until this year, was an unknown. ]

We live in ... Interesting times ....


10 posted on 01/29/2019 1:39:17 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: bert

Hey, arm chair, Pat. It looks like we’ve got a choke hold on the money...For Plan B, that’s up to the people. Would be foolish for us to wade in for no reason. The people will not let Russians or Chinamen run their country.


11 posted on 01/29/2019 1:40:01 PM PST by nikos1121
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To: Kaslin

Buchanan has a short memory about popular revolts even when it seems the military/police are standing by a dictator.

Paraphrasing the news journalist in the final moments of the original “The Thing”, as he said to the world, “Look to Romania. Look to Romania”.

Mussolini and his whore.
Ceaucescu and his whore.

“Hang ‘em high”, twice, just to be sure!!


12 posted on 01/29/2019 1:40:57 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Kaslin
"Pay the soldiers. The rest do not matter."

Only true if the common people are disarmed. The Venezuelan military are 123,000 soldiers in a country of 31 million. If there were a significant percentage of hostile armed citizens, the army would stay on their bases.

13 posted on 01/29/2019 1:42:37 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: bert

The last one was stolen. I have no opinion about the rest.


14 posted on 01/29/2019 1:43:15 PM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: The Toll

Chavez and Maduro are not alien invaders. They were, for the most part, chosen by Venezuelans themselves. Let Venezuelans solve it. And if civl war happens, even better. It will cure most of them of their love of socialism for a couple generations.

Plus, it helps having an off-broadway socialist shit showing playing somewhere every day. It might sway just enough low-info Americans who are interested in people like Bernie Sanders or AOC.


15 posted on 01/29/2019 1:44:52 PM PST by PGR88
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To: nikos1121

It would seem that with Russian and Chinese money being injected, we do not actually have a chokehold on the money.

The telling action is going to be the arrest of Guido.


16 posted on 01/29/2019 1:46:00 PM PST by bert ( (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Honduras must be invaded to protect America from invasion)
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To: Kaslin

A lousy article Pat.


17 posted on 01/29/2019 1:46:13 PM PST by Fungi
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To: bert

I say be patient.


18 posted on 01/29/2019 1:47:02 PM PST by nikos1121
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To: Kaslin
Are we inviting a civil war in Venezuela? Should the shooting start in Caracas, what do we do then?

Probably sit it out and bide our time. - Tom

19 posted on 01/29/2019 1:49:38 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: sparklite2; bert

Hugo Chavez stole a few of those elections prior to his death. There is no reason to believe Maduro didn’t steal his.


20 posted on 01/29/2019 1:54:20 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists call 'em what you will they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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