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I guess that's settled.
1 posted on 01/23/2019 8:31:19 PM PST by be-baw
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Now they can impeach him for not doing the SOTU


63 posted on 01/23/2019 8:58:57 PM PST by Cementjungle
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I would have preferred Pelosi caved on the SOTU venue. But it did not happen.

So what does Pelosi do for an encore? The Democrats are getting restive.

Perhaps her replacement as Majority Speaker for the House (Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, anyone?) will make the next move.

64 posted on 01/23/2019 8:59:19 PM PST by flamberge (It seemed like a good idea at the time)
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I guess from a simplistic power-play point of view — one could say Pelosi won and Trump caved and lost on this skirmish.

I don’t think Trump wanted to give the SOTU under these circumstances. Perhaps he believes he can use the SOTU to better advantage after the shutdown is over.


68 posted on 01/23/2019 9:01:14 PM PST by plain talk
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Ha...he made Pelousy show her “colors”
..and brought the exercise back to topic...The Wall


79 posted on 01/23/2019 9:06:11 PM PST by goodnesswins (White Privilege EQUALS Self Control & working 50-80 hrs/wk for 40 years!)
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Oh, good grief! Get ready for a bunch of fickle FReepers to dump Trump. Apparently, some people don’t know that you don’t always hit a home run, every time you come up to bat. Besides, til I know that this is truly EXACTLY what he said, I’m not going to get my panties in a wad. And even if it’s accurate, I sure as heck am not going to dump Trump over it. If I expected perfection, I’d have waited til Jesus is on the ballot.


86 posted on 01/23/2019 9:10:37 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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Two possible scenarios.

1) Trump has a definite date in mind where he will soon end the shutdown by declaring a national emergency, so that he can fund the wall.

2) Trump folded like a cheap suit.

89 posted on 01/23/2019 9:12:08 PM PST by FreeReign
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Maybe his acquiesce will get that irrational woman to fund the border wall?

This is not a win, but the crazies have been called up for violence. Shootings in Florida & NJ. Then tonight a goober attempted (it was for show as he was available for media questions) to set himself on fire.


97 posted on 01/23/2019 9:15:40 PM PST by Lopeover (Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.)
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Trump probably just gave Pelosi and the DEMs one more reason *never* to fund the wall or end the shutdown. The longer this drags on, the less important the SOTU becomes. Honestly, it needs to be either build the wall or start a civil war. But the Right in general has no stomach for a civil war.


102 posted on 01/23/2019 9:18:03 PM PST by CatOwner
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Supposedly, 30 Democrats wrote to Pelosi in a letter today to provide funding for a barrier when the gov’t is back open. LOL


107 posted on 01/23/2019 9:19:30 PM PST by marajade (Skywalker)
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Hannity needs to call trump tonight and talk some sense to him. The optics are not good here. We need a win out of this.


123 posted on 01/23/2019 9:29:30 PM PST by Fla.Deporable
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This will be a propaganda coup for the left. I think Trump is overwhelmed with a lack of support and too-many long-knives in our on party. This action steals the momentum from any favorable negotiations on the wall/shutdown (unless secret agreements have already been made). He should have at the least said nothing.

The nomination of Barr is also troubling, along with the fact that no one from the Obama-Clinton clans have been prosecuted.

So what is Plan B? There will be no Q, or 9-D Trump, that is coming to the rescue.


125 posted on 01/23/2019 9:31:04 PM PST by Swirl
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Not happy.


127 posted on 01/23/2019 9:33:03 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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L O S I N G


154 posted on 01/23/2019 9:53:35 PM PST by morphing libertarian (Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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Total cave of historic proportions!!!

169 posted on 01/23/2019 10:00:28 PM PST by yield 2 the right
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173 posted on 01/23/2019 10:03:36 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Trump is required to turn in at least a report.


175 posted on 01/23/2019 10:04:30 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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If they are going to continue the shutdown, then shut down all the gov’t. Why should 25% of the workforce be held hostage by Pelosi and President Trump?

No paychecks for any of them. Bet that would get them off their asses.

Yes, I am a federal employee, about to miss my second paycheck. Figure I would give full disclosure. Sure, they say I’ll get paid eventually but that is hardly comforting when they are talking about dragging it into the summer.

I still support the President but this partial shutdown and the powers that be’s cavalier attitude is really starting to piss me off.


181 posted on 01/23/2019 10:11:11 PM PST by hattend
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Then she could prevent him from giving one next year too.


189 posted on 01/23/2019 10:16:57 PM PST by NoLibZone (Trump's exposed a life long, professional ruling class that can't be removed without violence.)
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Caved. Next the wall.

Did the weaker GOPe get to him?


192 posted on 01/23/2019 10:21:59 PM PST by Fledermaus (Tagline For Lease)
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At the end of the day, the battle lines are already drawn between the deeply immoral, no moral boundaries sex driven, anti-American, global socialist, seeking total subjugation or slavery of society, and those who love God, love liberty, hate slavery, love justice, and love America!

Unfortunately, the largely brainwashed, economic and historically illiterate, who cannot come to grips with morality, or discern right from wrong, are the ones who swing back and forth, from one election to next.

Nancy Botox, knows who her base is, and will continue to try to satisfy them as much and as long as possible. And the mass media, and anti-American global socialist DNC are blatant borish liars, and are one and the same.

Could be wrong here, but the undecided group in the middle probably gravitates toward the whoever projects and performs as the stronger leader. Even if they do not necessarily agree with a leader, I have known several over the years, who in the end, gravitate towards the warrior/fighter leader.

Even while not really true, the perception of giving in, (or as some are saying, “capitulating”) to Nancy Botox and her radical base, has already resulted in what they perceive as a solid win against Trump.

Additionally, while there is some panic, Nancy’s House is still showing resolution in continuing to hurt Trump. In their hearts, they could really care less about people getting hurt, or lives. The end always justifies the means.

In the end, Trump still wins this.

However, I believe POTUS Trump could have really “blown the doors off”, and really done some damage to DNC Uniparty global socialists elite, by giving his SOTU in a number of different iconoc forums, packed with legal immigrants, conservative legislators, and injured recovering service members, and others.

It’s not over, but right now this looks like a blown opportunity.

Not just on SOTU, but Trump seems to be taking some bad advice on a number of issues, perhaps most importantly not more aggressively going after those who actually have conspired with Russian and other foreign ops to carry out a real coup, and giving in to seeding Executive authority to lower federal courts on immigration, even if only for the m on the it takes to get to the SCOTUS.

The left is so bad today, if our Constitution and liberty are to survive, Trump really needs to go all in for the truth, to try and take out the treasonous lawbreaker elites leading our agencies.

There is no compromising or cushion with those who intend to enslave us, and destroy morality and America.


213 posted on 01/23/2019 10:59:47 PM PST by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!))
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