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GOP Sen. Cruz, Rep. Rooney introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress
CNN ^ | January 4, 2019 | Jamie Ehrlich

Posted on 01/04/2019 9:56:27 PM PST by conservative98

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I like it Ted, the beard and the amendment.

But what should be happening in my opinion is repealing the Seventeenth Amendment. The senate was formed as the empowered representative of the individual states of the union by our Constitution and being popularly elected as some were within the states even before the 17th Amendment has changed the strong state representation into a national super star with interests far beyond their individual states.

Perhaps we just need an amended Seventeenth Amendment with term limits and some campaign finance reform with teeth in it? You want to speculate on the chances of passing those good but impossible notions?

Get back to basics. Our US Constitution was and still is the greatest document written by man.

21 posted on 01/04/2019 11:13:49 PM PST by Sa-teef
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To: conservative98

Why are they wasting time with this instead of more important and more practical issues such as full fudinng of Trump’s wall, national reciprocity, implementing e-Verify, and so much more?


22 posted on 01/04/2019 11:18:31 PM PST by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: newzjunkey
"We cannot allow this to happen to congress."

where the Hell have you been?

Permanent government employees already control 95% of the government no matter who is elected. The few people who are elected have no idea what the permanent government is really up to, especially if they've only been in DC a decade or less.

What, you think your Congressman knows what some OSHA or EPA guy lets slide in return for a few hundred bucks or conversely, enforces a strict interpretation of the rules against company B after taking cash from company A to ignore the same rules?

Promise permanent government people more pay, more time off, and more benefits, and they may lower themselves to making the massive self-perpetuating bureaucracy squeeze out something quicker than usual. Barring what amounts to bribes from the people who get elected, they just roll on and select the appropriate binder full of rules to fish an excuse for their inertia out of and respond to Congressional prodding with.

23 posted on 01/04/2019 11:24:55 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Flick Lives
They need to start with something more palatable to the current members, like limiting the number of terms for members in congress to say 50 terms.

LOL

24 posted on 01/04/2019 11:51:56 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Reno89519

This is GOPe at it’s finest. Next maybe pass a bill to defund planned parenthood. Oh, and repeal obamacare. Haha.


25 posted on 01/05/2019 1:25:08 AM PST by McCarthysGhost
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To: conservative98

Having term limits for all senators, representatives, and the President is a bad idea unless all federal employees are subject to some sort of employment limitation also. Otherwise we will soon be ruled by un-elected, un-accountable, and uncaring a$$wholes who know that they have virtually unlimited power and cannot be fired.

Of course many think that Congress’ abdication of lawmaking responsibility to the deep state has already created an indestructible monster.


26 posted on 01/05/2019 3:49:59 AM PST by ByteMercenary (Healthcare Insurance is *NOT* a Constitutional right.)
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To: conservative98

A snowball has a better chance of surviving hell than this amendment has of going anywhere except the trash can.

The elitists running the swamp are in charge. They will never let this happen.


27 posted on 01/05/2019 3:55:26 AM PST by redfreedom (.)
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To: newzjunkey

We need desperately need term limits for Congress (and for the Senate and in fact probably for the judiciary too) but you have brought up an important point, which is that the administrative personnel generally remain in place since they are either appointed or hired and have no limits. This has got to be considered and some mechanism has got to be found to require turn over or to give the elected representatives more ease in firing and hiring these positions.

The administrative state is the true “Deep State,” and these are precisely the people who are causing so much trouble for Trump.

But there’s also the crying-out-for-term-limits Pelosi and other elected octogenarians who would never have gotten this far if they hadn’t had unlimited time to build up power and money to get themselves reelected, and at least Cruz’ bill is a start.


28 posted on 01/05/2019 4:05:57 AM PST by livius
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To: newzjunkey

What, that doesn’t happen now?


29 posted on 01/05/2019 4:19:35 AM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Nateman

Like voting yourself a raise, how do you vote yourself out a job for life?


30 posted on 01/05/2019 4:19:39 AM PST by ronnie raygun (nic dip.com)
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To: conservative98

I thought that a similar law was struck down by SCOTUS some time ago.


31 posted on 01/05/2019 4:27:27 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Mitt Romney: Bringing Massachusetts Values To The Great State Of Utah.)
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To: conservative98

GOP Sen. Cruz, Rep. Rooney introduce constitutional amendment to impose term limits on Congress.

Merely an attempt at attention getting. Pure BS that won’t go anywhere.
Lookatme, lookatme, lookatme . Assholes


32 posted on 01/05/2019 4:40:03 AM PST by GoldenPup
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To: conservative98

Strange how Republicans wouldn’t push for legislation like that when they had a majority and some chance of it passing. Makes a person think it’s all for show.


33 posted on 01/05/2019 4:42:20 AM PST by fso301
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To: Nateman

It can’t be ex post facto anyways, so it would probably have to go into effect at the next election and forward from there.


34 posted on 01/05/2019 4:48:04 AM PST by Openurmind
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To: caltaxed

“Worthless waste of time. Cruz knows this has absolutely no chance of going anywhere,”

Very true! The only possible value will be to get the RATs on record opposing it.


35 posted on 01/05/2019 4:50:30 AM PST by vette6387
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To: ByteMercenary
"Having term limits for all senators, representatives, and the President is a bad idea unless all federal employees are subject to some sort of employment limitation also. Otherwise we will soon be ruled by un-elected, un-accountable, and uncaring a$$wholes who know that they have virtually unlimited power and cannot be fired."

Huh? If fed employees' terms are unchanged either way, why is it a bad idea to limit the terms of the elected?

Term limits for staffers is a separate issue, right?

36 posted on 01/05/2019 4:51:41 AM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Flick Lives
They need to start with something more palatable to the current members, like limiting the number of terms for members in congress to say 50 terms.

A good start. :)

But still wouldn't pass. :(

37 posted on 01/05/2019 5:08:58 AM PST by Does so (If Trump Colluded with Russians, Why Did Hillary Win The Popular Vote?)
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To: TheZMan

But the “us” still can’t figure it out, based on November 6 returns. Of course the returns may be highly fraudulent.


38 posted on 01/05/2019 5:34:02 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: conservative98

Cruz may not run again in 2024, and Beto could still be waiting to topple him.


39 posted on 01/05/2019 5:35:31 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: conservative98

I think it should be required that Representatives serve no more than 4 CONSECUTIVE terms (8 years) and Senators serve no more than 2 CONSECUTIVE terms (12 years). If they want to take another bite at the apple after sitting out a term, so be it. It at least gives fresh blood a chance.

But as they say, politicians are like diapers. They need to be changed often -— and for the same reason.


40 posted on 01/05/2019 5:45:46 AM PST by trublu
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