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Report: Half of US adults have immediate family member who has been in jail or prison
cnn ^ | December 6, 2018

Posted on 12/09/2018 5:00:02 PM PST by SMGFan

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To: Vigilanteman

And Violent man Stand Watch..


81 posted on 12/09/2018 8:39:39 PM PST by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: A strike

Exactly...The other half of us just have stayed below “the Man’s” radar.

So far.

“Even the just man fails several times a day” we just haven’t been indicted yet, I guess


82 posted on 12/09/2018 8:41:21 PM PST by Oscar in Batangas (12:01 PM 1/20/2017...The end of an error.)
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To: Big Red Badger

Many times ‘not ever being arrested’ really means
‘not ever being caught yet’ . That has my experience thus far.


83 posted on 12/09/2018 8:56:25 PM PST by lee martell (AT)
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To: Noamie
I've been to many jails and was actually arrested once (falsely). I've also sat through innumerable court civil and criminal court proceedings and can say that the system is broken.

We incarcerate far too many people, and the system is perpetuated by greed and ignorance--greed on the part of the "justice" system and ignorance on the part of of many "criminals." I've sat in towns where the largest facility is the county jail, and the courtroom looks like a set from a B-movie complete with a well-fed DA and judge and a public pretender who looked like Doogie Howser only without the brains. It's an assembly line of petty offenders (many innocent) designed to keep the jail filled with paying customers--most of whom have no real income. The other primary residents are the transients--middle class people who make brief stays and will pay almost anything to get back to their lives.

Violent criminals comprise a very small percentage of jail and prison populations. Even most murderers are highly unlikely to repeat--most are crimes of passion. Fully half of those serving were accomplices--and are (rightfully) sentenced to the full consequence of their "friend's" actions. Sex offenders are the exception--with repeated offenses and recidivism more likely than not. Assault, robbery, and other crimes vary in recidivism and relative penalties. Even those who finish their time rarely have a chance at rebuilding their lives.

That said, this bill (The First Step Act)is another liberal fantasy. It is as well-crafted as the mandatory sentencing guidelines that landed us in this mess. It replaces accountability and authority with "SHALL." Officials SHALL reduce time; SHALL give credit for "courses," SHALL release (even dangerous) elderly prisoners, etc.

With some good aspects; the one part I adamantly oppose is the insistence of not only including, but prioritizing high-risk participants. From the outside, this seems rational; but it is dangerously naive. This will result in the release of the most dangerous criminals and those who will re-offend.

Having worked in government and specifically with youthful offenders, this is the exact opposite of what should happen. To ensure the greatest success, they should start with the low-hanging fruit. Those least likely to re-offend and those most likely to make it outside. The focus should be on helping prisoners who have shown promise, relieving the taxpayers, and increasing public safety, not trying to prove the efficacy of another government program.

84 posted on 12/09/2018 8:59:06 PM PST by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalismÂ’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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To: lee martell

Quite true,
Thanks for pulling my string.
It was the same day that
Evil Knievel botched the
Snake River jump.
Mi Vida Loca,Baby!


85 posted on 12/09/2018 9:02:12 PM PST by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: sparklite2

“You’ll Never take Me Alive,
Coppers!”

Edward G.


86 posted on 12/09/2018 9:05:06 PM PST by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: Robert357

Generally true, but there are too many things against the law these days. You could divide them into “common law” crimes (rape, murder, robbery, assault, etc.), which have been against the law for millenia, and “statutory” crimes (drugs, license offenses, etc.), which are only against the law because they were made so by a government, generally for at most decades. If we culled our criminal codes back to the common law crimes, I think we’d have less people in jail/prison, and yet be better off for it. Won’t happen most likely though because there’s an industry that lives off it.


87 posted on 12/09/2018 9:13:13 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

Of course, the cops are pure as snow:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3711719/posts?page=1


88 posted on 12/09/2018 9:29:20 PM PST by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: antidisestablishment

Im a State probation/parole officer. I am an “expert” on this topic. I agree with some of what you wrote. I disagree with other parts. Good fortune to you, man.


89 posted on 12/09/2018 9:50:01 PM PST by Noamie
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To: Noamie

You’re more brave than I. I’m sure you have a much better understanding than most. God bless you.


90 posted on 12/09/2018 10:18:11 PM PST by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalismÂ’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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To: SMGFan

Bingo. All it says is having been in jail or prison.
Yes, I have had a few members of my family be in jail, at some point. Don’t think any less of them for it, either.


91 posted on 12/09/2018 10:53:11 PM PST by ozaukeemom (9/11/01 Never Forget. Never.)
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To: SMGFan

BS flag must be thrown

Half of the people I know have NOT been to prison or jail. In fact less than ten percent of the people I know have ever been to prison or jail.....and that’s because I go to twelve step meetings

Truth be told no one in my family has ever been arrested . The people I know mostly fit in that category.


92 posted on 12/09/2018 11:12:13 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Celerity

If you commit a crime with a gun and have injured another person ( say robbery or murder or attempted murder) , I see no reason for you to ever own a gun again.


93 posted on 12/09/2018 11:16:03 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Lazamataz

But Laz you are our very special exception


94 posted on 12/09/2018 11:18:37 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: SMGFan

Well, I guess that’s how the other half lives...


95 posted on 12/09/2018 11:21:18 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast (You may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you...)
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To: Celerity

Plus one

Won’t go over with the torches and pitchforks DuFarge society here

But yes you’re correct


96 posted on 12/09/2018 11:45:50 PM PST by wardaddy (I don’t care that you’re not a racist......when the shooting starts it won’t matter what yo)
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To: Noamie

That’s just Georgia

Feds take it for life as do most states

Did they used to give you your guns back at Yuma and El Reno when you left?

Yes they did in the West

This gun control act which was initiated as a response to urban riots and black violence

No lie as you say


97 posted on 12/09/2018 11:54:17 PM PST by wardaddy (I don’t care that you’re not a racist......when the shooting starts it won’t matter what yo)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Those are lengthy visits compared to a night or two for (say) drunk driving or rowdiness after the championship game.


98 posted on 12/10/2018 12:15:37 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: SMGFan

I have had to evict two families consisting of two adults and two children each. In both cases the mothers had spent over a year in prison. In both cases, drugs and the resultant thefts were the cause. Both couples were Caucasian. I haven’t, so far, had any problems with the mixed race couple or the black couple. (I say this since several posters mentioned race.)

My conclusion is, with a drug issue, the problem just goes on and on. Sending someone to prison doesn’t resolve it. I don’t know an answer. I just report the facts as I see them.


99 posted on 12/10/2018 2:30:42 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: lee martell
Many times ‘not ever being arrested’ really means ‘not ever being caught yet’...

OK,given that this response originated with a post of mine I'll comment: when I was 12 I was slightly involved in the theft of some dirty magazines from a guy's garden shed.Nobody was caught but if I was the juvenile court probably would have given me some mild punishment given that it was my first offense.Also at about the same time we used to fool around with firecrackers,which were (and still are) illegal in my state.

As an adult I've never even done anything as relatively harmless as that.Also,I've never had a moving violation ticket. I've gotten many parking tickets but never a moving violation in 50 years of driving.However,I often fail to come to a complete stop at stop signs and have exceeded the speed limit by as many as 10mph on occasion.

From a *criminal* standpoint that's the extent of my history.And my extended family is basically the same.

Contrast that to the Clinton Crime Family,the Kennedys,Ted Bundy and OJ.

100 posted on 12/10/2018 3:47:32 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (I've Never Owned Slaves...You've Never Picked Cotton.End Of "Discussion".)
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