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Robert Mueller Is No Match for Fox News
NY Times ^ | Quinta Jurecic

Posted on 12/01/2018 4:19:29 PM PST by conservative98

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To: conservative98

What does this chubby twit know that hasn’t been published by Leftist liars?


61 posted on 12/01/2018 6:22:27 PM PST by txrefugee
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To: conservative98

Just another Media Industry oligarch bullying the public, nothing to see here.


62 posted on 12/01/2018 6:26:32 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Strangest civil war in history, only one side is shooting.)
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To: monkeyshine
I think we can safely say that real justice is a slow process. Whether there is a process in place now for spygate is anyone's guess. But ultimately there may need to be a blue ribbon investigation that exonerates many of the principals like Brennan ahd Comey. The next level down probably won't get much punishment either e.g. McCabe. Below that level they will say zey were just following zee orderz.

If you look at the big spygate diagram, a big problem is that the British can spy on American citizens and swap information with American agencies. In spygate there was specific foreign interference, mainly British and the one Aussie diplomat who was buddies with Bill Clinton. Not just spying but setups. They were of course working with American intel which will need reforming. Don't know yet how that will happen, maybe not even CWII (which our enenies want). I think a collapse and reset of the federal government might do it.

63 posted on 12/01/2018 6:26:40 PM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: monkeyshine
APP-011818-Trump-Dossier
64 posted on 12/01/2018 6:34:13 PM PST by timestax
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To: MrBambaLaMamba
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65 posted on 12/01/2018 6:36:59 PM PST by timestax
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To: timestax

I like the way this guy thinks: https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1068974498576285698

gigglesnort


66 posted on 12/01/2018 6:37:04 PM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: goldstategop
Re: The failing New York Times

Amazingly, NYT’s stock is up 150% over the last two years.

And, no, I have no idea why.

67 posted on 12/01/2018 6:38:13 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

IIRC, most of the NYT’s value is now in real estate. Otherwise, it’d be just so much ink.


68 posted on 12/01/2018 6:41:43 PM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: palmer

For the Republic to survive the rule of law must be upheld. It has to be done, but imo it must be done using the tools we already have in place. If it takes 2 or 3 special councils or scores of regional prosecutors in order to give balance (not to mention safety in numbers, you could eliminate one and get away with it but you couldn’t eliminate three) so be it. What we can’t abide is any more delays. I suspect Trump knows it. He will not gain a second term if he continues to just play defense. He has to take his opposition down, and he has to force the media to turn around. They will be unable to ignore the story, loathe as they would be to report it, when high ranking people turn states evidence and grand jury indictments are unsealed. They are of course using all the misdirection they can muster right now but they get away with it because of the complete absence of any justice. They have given us all the dots but they can and will not connect them until it is done for them in the form of prosecutions.

The rumor mill is amok, no way to know or trust what it says. But some say Lynch is talking, some say Ohr or talking, some say Rosenstein has flipped, some say Whittaker is putting a muzzle on Mueller... so while you think some on the top will be exonerated I am not so sure. I am certain the conspiracy reaches the Obama Oval Office, the evidence shows that it does (Susan Rice’s email + Strzok’s texts about the White House running the show). But I am also sure Obama will escape as Presidents just don’t prosecute other Presidents and they have so many layers between them and the crimes that insulate them. People will fall on their swords.

One thing I try to wrap my head around are all those immunity agreements Comey handed out. Now if Comey is guilty of conspiracies, sedition, obstruction of justice and handed out immunity to his co-conspirators, those agreements should not be allowed to stand. It could be the most epic battle the country has seen since 1865. Much bigger than Watergate. But I can only speculate and comment. We’ll see if or how it all shakes out.


69 posted on 12/01/2018 6:54:40 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: combat_boots
Re: “IIRC, most of the NYT’s value is now in real estate. Otherwise, it’d be just so much ink.”

NYT stock lost 90% of its value during the last six years of GWB’s administration - from 50 to less than 5.

It hit bottom right before Obama was inaugurated - in January 2009 - and it has moved from 5 to 27 (440% gain) over the last ten years.

I hate the company, but I wish I had bought the stock!

70 posted on 12/01/2018 7:08:59 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: palmer

To your other point, Congress does need to act. It amazes me how the left went from opposition to the Patriot Act and mass “no blood for oil” protests to defense of the spy ring and wholesale support for Obama’s interventions, drone strikes, regime change etc. The people who a decade ago sat around their dinner tables and cocktail parties lamenting an intrusive FBI under Hoover that sought to infiltrate political organizations and frame Dr. King now cheer Comey and give Brennan a paid gig to spout lies on cable news.

There is even greater irony that it seems. I can remove judgement from the question and state simply that it is a necessity for the Director of the CIA to be a masterful liar and expert at deception. Those are the required skills for the job. Accepting that, though, you could never put him on the air every day and accept what he says to be true. He has a duty to lie to protect state secrets, and he is a trained, experienced deceiver whatever the case may be. For CNN to have hired him to give commentary on Trump, whom he conspired against, or on any other matter is beyond absurd.

I opposed the Patriot Act. I go against the grain of many here on FR in that I support Assange’s right to publish. I recognize the crimes that Snowden committed warrant prosecution, but believe he acted in the best interests of the Republic in so doing. Congress has to reform the laws, we cannot ask foreign countries to violate the Constitution on our behalf, just like we cannot allow the NSA or CIA et al to obtain “voluntarily” all our communications because ATT is a private company in possession of them. It is perverse in many ways, a violation of our 4th and 5th Amendment rights and worse, ATT, Google, Amazon etc receive billions in government contracts - there is no way they would refuse a request for our information anyway.


71 posted on 12/01/2018 7:19:38 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: conservative98
another feckless frunt with a bra size IQ heard from...
72 posted on 12/01/2018 8:00:14 PM PST by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: Widget Jr

You need to be clear here. With the House majority the dems have the ability to pass articles of impeachment. This is what is usually meant by impeach. But the senate is another thing. Since we have not seen the senate ever pass something that needs more than 60 votes, is is not likely that we will see a charge of impeachment ever lead to conviction. So absolutely, Mueller does not have enough to convince 67 senators to vote to convict. Of course this also means that they will have settled on a criminal act, which we also have not yet seen.


73 posted on 12/01/2018 9:01:41 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom
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To: conservative98
Conspiracy theorists and prosecutors live in different worlds: The first, unmoored from truth; the second, devoted to proving facts beyond a reasonable doubt.

If prosecutors were truly "devoted to proving facts beyond a reasonable doubt.", there would be no need for appellate courts. In the real world, prosecutors are political animals seeking to maintain their office and often higher office. She has watched too much TV crime dramas.

I remember when Journalists weren't college grads but worked their way through the ranks starting with cub reporters working the crime beat to get the deadline to please their grisled editor. Then after many years getting to be head writer. They got a few gray hairs and experienced life before pontificating to the masses about how life "really works."

(Hint: It ain't taught in a college course, little Miss Sugar Britches.)
74 posted on 12/01/2018 9:04:24 PM PST by RedMonqey ("Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didn't.")
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To: Olog-hai

She dragged herself to the grocery store when sick, because she lives alone, she does not live with someone who loves her/him who would have gone to the store for her.


75 posted on 12/02/2018 7:01:40 AM PST by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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To: conservative98

He looks like a tough guy.


76 posted on 12/02/2018 8:45:27 AM PST by JPJones (More tariffs, less income tax.)
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To: conservative98

She writes about two topics she blatantly doesn’t understand.

Wow.


77 posted on 12/04/2018 5:16:14 AM PST by spacewarp (FreeRepublic, Rush's show prep since foundation.)
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