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2016 pollsters erred by not weighing education on state level, says political analyst
The Hill ^ | 09/24/18 | Julia Manchester

Posted on 09/24/2018 1:22:10 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

Political analyst Bill Schneider said on Monday that one of the biggest mistakes made by state pollsters in the 2016 presidential election is that they didn't give enough consideration to differences in voters' education.

"One other mistake the pollsters made is they didn't weigh the results in the states by education," Schneider told Hill.TV's Joe Concha on "What America's Thinking."

"Education has become a bigger and bigger factor in our politics, and it's been there for a while, differences by education, but [President] Trump has exaggerated them. There's a huge difference between the college-educated white voters and the non-college educated white voters," he continued.

"It's the non-college educated white voters who are strong supporters of Trump, and the [state polls] never weigh for education. So the result is they didn't get the right estimates," Schneider said. "Today we have a very odd pattern, the wealthier you are, the more likely you are to vote Republican, the better educated you are, the more likely you are to vote for a Democrat."

Fifty-two percent of voters without a college degree backed Trump in 2016, according to the Pew Research Center.

The American Association for Public Opinion Research noted in a report of the 2016 presidential election that there was an over-estimation of support for Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton because state-level polls did not weigh education.

"In 2016 there was a strong correlation between education and presidential vote in key states. Voters with higher education levels were more likely to support Clinton," the report said.

"Furthermore, recent studies are clear that people with more formal education are significantly more likely to participate in surveys than those with less education. Many polls — especially at the state level — did not adjust their weights to correct for the over-representation of college graduates in their surveys, and the result was over-estimation of support for Clinton," it continued.


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I've never understood the term, "non-college educated white voters".

Why do we have a separate category for white voters? Why do we never refer to 'non-college educated black voters', 'non-college educated Hispanics voters', and 'non-college educated Asian voters'?

It's almost as if they want to imply white voters aren't well educated.

Consider the fact blacks and Hispanics have lower high school graduation rates than whites but we never hear about 'non-high school graduate blacks', and 'non-high school graduate Hispanics'.

1 posted on 09/24/2018 1:22:10 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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if you said “non educated black & hispanic voters overwhelmingly voted for obama in 2008 and 2012” you would be tarred and feathered as a racist..


2 posted on 09/24/2018 1:24:06 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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“Educated” has come to mean indoctrinated.

Time to eliminate tuition assistance for non-stem majors.


3 posted on 09/24/2018 1:24:29 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: yesthatjallen

College educated white guy who voted for Trump here.


4 posted on 09/24/2018 1:25:27 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: yesthatjallen

It’s wisdom that’s most needed.
‘Education’ is no guarantee of that and, in fact, often works to its detriment.


5 posted on 09/24/2018 1:25:48 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: yesthatjallen

That study is bullshiite.

I’m college educated and I voted for Trump........................


6 posted on 09/24/2018 1:26:15 PM PDT by Red Badger (Q............PREPARE FOR 'SKY IS FALLING' WEEK...........................)
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“Education” in this sense is another word for “Indoctrination”.

Basically the less exposed you are to the indoctrination and brainwashing, the more likely you are to vote against the establishment (who funds the Indoctrination Centers otherwise known as schools and universities).


7 posted on 09/24/2018 1:26:49 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: yesthatjallen

There is a category for non-college educated black voters.

It is a defined by black voters that do not have a college education.


8 posted on 09/24/2018 1:28:05 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: yesthatjallen

What they mean is college brain-washed voters.


9 posted on 09/24/2018 1:28:32 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: yesthatjallen

The error by the pollsters was that they were lying through their teeth and got caught at it.


10 posted on 09/24/2018 1:30:15 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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I too get tired of this subdividing. I think they do it so they can attack groups and find a definition of Trump supporters they are comfortable demeaning. As a person with a postgraduate degree I am pretty sick of hearing that Trump supporters are uneducated uncouth neanderthals. Trump supporters are people who love their country, want to be able to work to get ahead, succeed on merit and respect service to Country and to her citizens (LE, firefighters, etc)

Trump supporters think for themselves and make their choices to advance the things they believe are important. Smaller Government, A Country with Laws & Borders, the Freedom to choose life and not be forced to pay for death & dismemberment of babies. Fair Trade Deals a growing economy & manufacturing base.

What does the other side offer slogans, corruption of our heritage, a failed socialism & globalism, situational morality & justice. Those people cannot win or America is lost. We have only our votes and voices. Make good use of both.


11 posted on 09/24/2018 1:31:08 PM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance.)
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What they mean is successfully college brain-washed voters vote mostly for useful idiots.


12 posted on 09/24/2018 1:31:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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It’s just one more metric they can use to say “Deplorable” or “clinging to God and guns” .


13 posted on 09/24/2018 1:31:22 PM PDT by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Trump voter with master’s degree here.


14 posted on 09/24/2018 1:32:50 PM PDT by AC86UT89
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Because, y'know, we're all stupid. What a miserable lying a-hole. The polling data was cooked!!! Still is!!! If you're skewing polling data based on the mirror image of yourself, it's likely you don't belong in the polling biz. Oh, and here's the wheelhouse line that sold all the "well educated" on Hitlery:
Thanks Iron Munro:

Clinton: Being a Capitalist Probably Hurt Me in 2016 Because So Many Democrats Are Socialists | freebeacon | Posted on 05/02/2018 2:55:43 PM PDT by Sub-Driver | 58 posted on 05/02/2018 4:18:34 PM PDT by Iron Munro

15 posted on 09/24/2018 1:34:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

College educated white guy who voted for Trump here.


Also College educated, but I got a degree in something that I could actually get a job in, accounting as oppose to something like “White Privilege in Modern Society” or some other BS major.


16 posted on 09/24/2018 1:34:42 PM PDT by upbeat5
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To: yesthatjallen

They are inferring that smarter people vote Democrat. But another way to look at it is that non-university educated people have not been brainwashed by leftist professors of sociology and psychology.


17 posted on 09/24/2018 1:36:09 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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Classic Gilligan's Island: A Yale Man
18 posted on 09/24/2018 1:36:44 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Actually I am a college educated single white gal who voted for Trump - and I am still proud of it.


19 posted on 09/24/2018 1:37:00 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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Way to go, Hill and The American Association for Public Opinion Research-more insults to Caucasian working class Americans-it will be a gift to conservatives like Hillary’s deplorable comment was in 2016. Like a lot of my neighbors out here, I’m a Caucasian of Hispanic ancestry, college educated and conservative, and I’m offended-I suppose next thery will say polls show all of us in rural places are ignorant rednecks who vote republican, too...


20 posted on 09/24/2018 1:37:22 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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