Posted on 08/13/2018 8:49:13 AM PDT by Kaslin
They say you arent supposed to talk politics and religion, but who are they, and why on earth not?
After all, those are the most interesting, and consequential, things.
If you practice a religion, its probably a component of that religion to spread its good news to other people. Theres nothing wrong with that, even though Christians, in particular, are told to essentially sit down and shut up regarding the Bibles take on things. But despite this, many Christians continue to spread the Gospel to their communities and the rest of the world, and thats a good thing.
But what about politics? Oh, you say, in the Age of Trump its just too toxic to talk politics. Even Christians seem to think its better to stick to the things we can all agree on, like the fact that Jesus loves the little children, the sky is blue, and bad weather is bad.
The problem is, were playing right into liberal hands. Besides the fact that liberal Christians believe in Jesus too, or at least they say they do, liberal Christians are often the most vehement opponents of President Trump and his agenda, and these days are among the most radical of leftists. Theyll smile and tell you Jesus Saves while they take your guns and vote for the next step to a socialist utopia that would impose an AD30 Jerusalem-style lifestyle on the rest of us faster than you can say "Che Guevara."
So it would stand to reason that, along with spreading our religion, conservatives (and I use that term broadly) should spread our politics too. Sure, these days thats a lot harder. It can be more awkward, and it can even come with negative social consequences. But if we want to save our country and our way of life, its absolutely necessary.
How, you ask? How about by simply starting a conversation?
For example, the other day I had an extended conversation with several co-workers who happened to be Hispanic. Theyre absolutely amazing employees and co-workers, but one thing was amiss - they were politically liberal, at least on paper. They voted Democrat, election after election. It wasnt a problem, of course, when it came to working. They do a great job. But I wondered about their politics. What makes them tick? Why do they believe what they believe? I know speech-killing radical Leftists wont understand at all, but its the kind of thing people who believe in the free exchange of ideas enjoy delving into.
During my conversations with them about various issues it turned out that, while they were card-carrying Democrats, they werent exactly Leftists, not in any strict sense. They appreciate the value of hard work and they dont like the idea of the government giving money to able-bodied people who refused to earn their own keep. They believe in God, faith, and family. They dont like high taxes. They believe in the right to self-defense, and dont think MS-13 should be the only group allowed to have guns. And they arent even all that keen on the idea of illegal immigrants, even from their home countries, being allowed to gain the same legal status as those, like themselves, who have come to this great country the proper way.
In other words, they were just Democrats because they were supposed to be. It was what their family and friends were. It was the expectation in their community, even though if you broke it down value by value, issue by issue, more times than not they agreed with conservative principles.
As we move to what many think is a more tolerant society, the real intolerance is increasingly coming from the Left. And sadly, it is the Hispanics, African-Americans, and other minority group members who feel the most pressure to be politically liberal, and who suffer the most dreadful social consequences when they veer from the expected party line.
After delving into issue after issue, the one question they couldnt really answer is - Why dont you vote Republican? It was a fun conversation, not unlike many I have had with people I come across in life. I dont know how theyll vote in November, but I do know that our conversation brought a perspective they hadnt considered before. And thats really all that matters. In politics, as in the Gospel, sometimes all it takes is to plant a seed.
In a country where were told the division between liberal and conservative lies around the 50 / 50 mark, my guess is that, even with demographic changes that lean in liberals favor, a majority of people still at least lean conservative. But the reason so many people continue to vote Democrat is that they dont always vote their values - they vote what is expected.
We live in a world where expressing dissident views of any sort can get you publicly ostracized, disemployed, deplatformed, and even subjected to violence from the Left, so its no wonder more and more people just disengage and keep their opinions to themselves. The Left is heavy-handed that way.
But as conservatives, and especially as Trump supporters, we cant afford to do that. Our ideas are good. Theyre workable. Theyre common sense, and they resonate if presented correctly and passionately from someone a person respects. Thats why the Left focuses so much more on shutting people down than they do on actually winning people with logic. Because when people actually speak freely with open minds, conservatism wins.
Think it cant be done? Liberals become conservatives all the time, and when they do they typically never look back. The #walkaway movement is an exciting, growing testament to that.
Imagine if every conservative in this country changed the mind of one person. Just one. Imagine how easy it would be to win elections.
Between now and November, and especially between now and 2020, make it your goal to make at least one liberal think about an issue in a way they might not have thought about it before. Study the issues. Hone your arguments. Yes, you should be polite. Yes, you should be non-confrontational. Yes, you should treat even those with whom you disagree with respect. But if you arent educating yourself on the issues and actively engaged in trying to change someones mind, you arent pulling your weight in this critical battle of ideas.
And if you arent doing your job, your country and your freedoms will eventually pay the price.
...have a life?
Not only are they hypocrites, they are also racists
EVERYONE for TRUMP has an obligation to not just convince, but to get a friend, family, colleague, whatever. to VOTE
We need TURNOUT
I might get arrested for trying to influence an election.
Democrats have flipped on immigration reform probably so that they can use illegal aliens to increase the size of their voting support pool.
More specifically, Democrats need to tap the illegal illegal alien vote probably to compensate for decades of unthinkingly shrinking the Democratic voting pool by promoting the murder of unborn future Democratic voters to win votes imo.
“If You Arent Trying To Change Someones Mind On Politics, You...
...have a life?”
Even an eternal life.
The most powerful spheres of influence in this world are not of this world. They are supernatural spheres.
Gospel comes with a side of gospel defense. Until the time came for His crucifixion, Jesus in this world was constantly watched over.
I believe those who get too close to “politicizing religion” ought to be rebuked for mixing the spheres. Such a mixing move is eventually going to usher in the Antichrist of Revelation, a leader who really does seem too good to be true and yet does not come in the manner that Christ is documented in scripture to come. I don’t think this is going to be Donald Trump or his supporters any other current figure in any of the branches of Christendom. But these figures are present as precursors, I believe, to gain acceptability for the mindset that will eventually accept the Antichrist. A fear of God that separates the spheres is the right thing. Donald Trump isn’t “the Christian champion” as is implied by a T-shirt that BGEA has been putting out. This has been getting Franklin Graham some catcalls from the left that don’t really have a cogent answer. No. Jesus is “the Christian champion.” Let’s not let the devil insinuate us into a mindset that, seemingly harmless at first, leads us into gross sin if unchecked.
I’m of the kind that hopes for more and more turnout for the Lord. Even those born again already, to also grow again and live again. People can be born again and then go nearly dormant.
People with the mind of Christ will then do the blessed thing even in the civic sphere.
Part of the reason we’re in the mess we’re in is because people stopped talking politics and religion at the dinner table.
I have a life. I also consider it very important to speak the truth and try to save my country from the evil of liberalism. Being informed and caring about the future of my country for my children, grandchildren, etc. is actually part of my having a life. I assume, by your comment, that caring about such issues means I don’t “have a life”. Does that mean we don’t go on vacation, celebrate life events, have fun with the kids and grandkids, go for a hike, enjoy a good movie, read a good book at the cottage, advance a career, buy a new home, build a business, etc., etc. There’s time for all of that.
So you really think that engaging in discussion in order to save your country is a waste of time? Congratulations. In fourteen years on FR I have never been so disgusted by a comment.....and it isn’t even my country!!!
As Dr. Jordan Peterson says, “If you don’t stand your ground, you’re receding.” This is how the left has done so well. People just going about their business, saying nothing, and hoping for the best, in other words, “having a life”, as the left took over education, took over the media, took over the entertainment industry, took over the judicial branch, etc. Now you’ll have to fight to save your nation.
Thankfully, for the sake of America, some people consider this very important. I’m doing what I can to wake up Canadians.
I believe there was a reason that the secular left did so well. I.e. it was a process of accepted usurpation.
And this in turn was due to American Christendom dozing off at the switch. It kept “keeping oneself unspotted from the world” (after a fashion) going out of pride. Oh no, we are proper, we won’t even let a gay darken our door. (Without thought as to how that door could lighten up the person who would cease to be “gay.”) It wasn’t doing all that well with “visiting widows and orphans in their distress.” We know that Rosa Parks was set up by Communists. But the situation she was exploited to take advantage of shouldn’t have existed in a “Christian country,” to the shame of Christendom.
“Letting Caesar do it” becomes a bitter trap after the first seeming nibbles of sweetness.
Canada is pretty cold with respect to outward expressions of “religion.” Its history isn’t like US history in that regard. Some messages that would be well accepted in American Christendom are considered suspect in Canada.
I insist, firmly but politely, that a spiritual basis needs to exist upon which some other social move occurs. That’s what helped get Poland’s Solidarnosc off the ground.
Getting it going south of the Canadian border via radio and TV that can be seen in Canada might be one of the best ways to do it. Radio Free Canada out of the USA as it were. With messages that will be understood in both Canada and USA.
It is the Democrats who are pushing hatred and genicide and basically any kind of insanity they can, not the GOP.
It makes it rather easy.
Who wants genicide and hate?
Not as many as the MSM would have you believe.
How many voters pay little attention and vote for party automatically or because of tradition?
Way more than we want to believe.
Those are the target people who need to know what has happened to the dem party.
Politics is self interest at a large scale.
In politics there are no spectators. You’re in the game regardless of whether you choose to participate or not.
If you don’t choose to participate you’re letting those that do make decisions that impact your self interests and your life.
i don’t want to hear religion or politics from strangers.
All of the people I know are either blinded and destroyed by Trump Derangement Syndrome or are totally devoid of political knowledge and do not wish to discuss it. Those who are nuts with TDS are people with whom I would NEVER, EVER discuss politics, because most are family members who think I am racist — and the “Holy-Roller” Cafeteria Catholics in my clan believe I am not a true Christian (thanks Pops Frankie). I’d rather not attempt it.
Christianity in Canada is not the same as Christianity in America.
I often say that I would go to church every week if it didn’t take so long to get to Texas.
Yeehaw.
It’s not the only loop of influence or even the most powerful one.
Politics is something that rides atop a spiritual stream.
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