Posted on 08/11/2018 7:24:32 AM PDT by rktman
So the white nationalists are coming back to Charlottesville, and once again were going to hear the standard media narrative that these bigots are on the right. Leave aside that Jason Kessler, the organizer of the original Charlottesville rally, was an Obama activist and an Occupy Wall Street guy. Never mind that Richard Spencer, the poster boy of white supremacy, reveals in a detailed interview in my new movie that hes a progressive who supports nationalized health care and expanded centralized state, and whose favorite presidents are all Democrats.
We need to probe deeper to understand who these white nationalists are and what they are about. One of the few scholars to make a genuine attempt to study their movement is political scientist Carol Swain. Swain, who was featured in my film Hillarys America, is one of the leading African-American scholars in the country. She has written two books, a detailed study of the white nationalist movement called The New White Nationalism in America and the other consisting of searching interviews with its most prominent members.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
So you agree with at least some of D'Souza's points.
I "get" from Pelham's posts that some people have a "thing" against D'Souza's, but I don't share it, am more inclined to forgive a good man a few mistakes.
I make more than a few myself.
I'd suggest separating the real patriot wheat from its Lesftist chaff and let the BLMs in white-face go their own way.
Everyone else needs to get over being "white" and focus more on being real Americans.
wardaddy: " This will end in bloodshed eventually. "
Not in my lifetime and hopefully never.
I think Trump has the right idea and somewhat proof of that is most recent victorious Democrats ran as faux Republicans.
They quickly figured out what Americans really want and now will sincerely pretend to give it to us.
I think DSouza is a brown race baiter pissed off at British overlords and projecting it here
Anyone claims my ancestors are Nazis has lost me
Hes just chaffing from Brahmin oppression
Is he right about some things ....yes
So is Mike Tubbs
So was Bil Clinton
And so forth
Trump pardons him
Dinesh bashes Old Hickory on Twitter yesterday
Who is Trumps favorite historical President ....
Show some respect for the man who pardoned you
Being pardoned for a felony is a big thing....to me anyhow
Ive flowed Dinesh since I lived in Manhattan and my girlfriend who was an expat as well liked Dinesh Dartmouth stuff
Hes sort of an ethnic NeoCon ..
We are so far gone beyond whos a racist or not and refighting 1861
And both parties
The GOP its all we have so far but its just bullshit
When the dust settle few leaders or pundits we have now will matter
Your last paragraph indicates we are of a wholly different mindset
Fair enough
Not in my lifetime yes....hell I nearly died six months ago so I doubt Ill be around forever and Im too old
But I have five children and grandkids
We will not subdue our domestic enemies politically
Nor will Europe
What is wrong with being a nationalist?
“That’s what I recall. Was he even with the fake klan group?”
I don’t know. I got the impression he was a basement dweller.
I've posted this 100 times at least.
I agree with at least some of Alan Dershowitz's points - even though he's a hard leftist. Not because of who he is, or who he associates with, but because those select points are correct.
Same with D'Souza. It seems that it's of people (some FReepers included) have a tendency to believe that it's an "all or nothing" proposition. I find that short-sighted.
To the point of this article, it's pretty clear that "white nationalist" is a false leftist construct, same as "alt-right". The left defining us so that it is easier to isolate us and destroy us. Screw that!
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>> “I agree with at least some of Alan Dershowitz’s points - even though he’s a hard leftist.” <<
No Cigar!
Dershowitz is no “hard leftist,” he is a solid social libertarian, and a very moderate leftist.
Above all, he is a very honest, moral man, so we can comfortably live with his expressed opinions.
“Sounds to me like D’Souza hit a nerve, struck too close to the truth and now those stuck are squealing.”
He’s one of the jackasses who likes to equate the Confederacy to Nazism. Something you might like?
“Dinesh wants so badly to be somebody.
I think so. Back in the 1990s D’Souza figured that trashing various people on the right as racist would be a sure route to success. Not unlike David Frum, who was doing the same thing at the same time. Kind of a neocon journalistic specialty. Frum succeeded at it for awhile, until enough people saw him as a rat and wished that he could be returned to Canada.
D’Souza has also discovered that Americans know too little about their own history to spot the BS he is spinning in his convenient political morality tales, with the Democrats starring as Satan and the GOP as God’s Agency On Earth. History, including that of the major political parties, isn’t that simple. But you can be sure that people will gobble it up long enough for Dinesh to reap the benefits.
My bad, sorry for the typo on your screen name -- tablet automatic word completion, poor lighting, etc., strictly unintentional, won't happen again.
Have a great day.
Your race is irrelevant, it's like saying, "I am a ten-fingered Nationalist", no you aren't.
As a long-time loyal FReeper you are a patriot and Constitutional originalist.
Your race has no more to do with it than your number of fingers.
Yeppers.
Sorry, that's a lot of inside baseball that I know nothing of.
But I take your point to be there's a big difference between a genuine constitutional conservative like yourself and what I'm calling "BLMs in white-face".
I often disagree with you, but will believe you on that.
Especially considering:
wardaddy: "I recall arguing Holocaust numbers with him....it was like 800,000 or 6 million...
Im like Michael 800,000 is still a damn lot partner even if one agreed with the revision."
Years ago I had similar very long debates on that subject and I know how those people think.
They apply the court-room standard that if you can catch a witness at a single "lie" then you can discard all his testimony.
So they discard all the eyewitnesses, attribute all the documentation to Soviet propaganda, and claim that indisputable Nazi speeches don't really mean what they seem to say.
And, presto-change, no more Holocaust.
wardaddy: "Very rich left wing Indian Americans..red dot not casinos.
Figure that."
Going back to our nation's earliest years, all immigrant groups started off as members of big-city Democrat political machines -- i.e., NY's Tammany Hall.
Generations later some became more established, served our military and began to think of themselves as real Americans.
Then they could consider giving up their parents' Democrat party for the party of real Americans.
Asia-Indians as a group are up-there with Chinese as a class above average -- their children graduate at the tops of their high school classes.
So they do well, but with rare exceptions -- Christian D'nesh D'Souza, Sikh Indian Nicky Haley, Hindu now Christian Bobby Jindal come to mind -- they follow the voting patterns of other immigrants.
You obviously follow D'Souza a lot more closely than I do, everything I've seen from him is pretty mainstream conservative.
But like President Trump I'm also a big fan of Andrew Jackson -- tough as nails, patriotic to the core, brilliant military mind, no nonsense.
He's the only president in our history to pay off the national debt!
His reputation as a slave-holder is that he treated his people better, and protected them even when they were wrong.
It made them very loyal.
Iirc, Jackson had an Indian (American Indian) adopted son, but the "trail of tears" was his response to Indian massacres of settlers when Andrew was young.
If we love our country we grieve for those Indians who died, but thank God for Andrew Jackson's work to build & hold his country together.
Thanks! Just wanted to be sure, I totally agree with your point.
No, in no way, they were two very different histories.
But I note that even some Lost Causers do make such comparisons -- when it can make their own side look good.
Cripes, I hope you are doing better! Had no idea you were that ill.
It was bad enough Vandy cardiac sent me off to a heart thing at Loyola Edward Heart Institute Napiervile .....a lovely lovely town with sweet people and pretty women
CTO PCI
its a super advanced multi entry point catheter procedure
Three entry points and attack LAD occlusion from the far side with tiny wires
Three inches of stents in my LAD which was 1980s era failure Ive. Just lived with in my bridged LAD
IT WORKED
It opened up a third of my left ventricle that had been dormant with. Just enoug blood flow to not die for 25 years
And its comimg back to life slowly
Could take a year which is 4/18
My pumping coefficient went from 25 in 12/23/25 when I had a non ST elevated heart attack to low 50s now which is near normal
No nitro
Chasing mama around like when she was 30 and I was 39
I had surgeries in 2004 and did ok after that but the collaterals gave out
It was a miracle procedure for me
Might not last forever but its sure great now
Thanks for asking
Its Gods will and Im grateful
Especially for chasing the old lady around
So happy for you & the family. That’s some impressive medical work. Amazing what can be done these days.
Good on you & the wife too:)
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