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Dem senator: I support 'real' Second Amendment, not 'imaginary' one
thehill.com ^ | 5/19/2018 | Max Greenwood

Posted on 05/22/2018 8:15:19 AM PDT by rktman

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To: rktman

OK. Thanks for your service!

Guess we’ll see who upholds their oaths against gov traitors if CWII happens. Praying that Trump & crew can turn this.


41 posted on 05/22/2018 9:50:25 AM PDT by polymuser (Its terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterto)
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To: rktman
I support the real 2nd Amendment, not the imaginary 2nd Amendment," Murphy tweeted. "And the real #2A isn’t absolute.

Right. This, uh, Marxist is saying our Bill of Rights is made of some kind of fluid that changes with the date and time somehow. Oil perhaps? Vinegar? Definitely not honey...

This moron belongs in the group "Buffoons 'R' Us". One wonders how they manage to dress in the morning without professional help.

42 posted on 05/22/2018 9:51:21 AM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Moral Equivalent of the Plague - It Destroys Anyone it Infects)
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To: rktman

His “real” Second Amendment reads that us lowly serfs are not allowed any means to defend ourselves from tyrants like him.


43 posted on 05/22/2018 9:57:17 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: polymuser

I did read something (scanned really) that Trump and Co are tearing the “democracy” apart and it may never get put back together. Uh, isn’t that why we elected him?


44 posted on 05/22/2018 10:00:23 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: JimRed

Penn and Teller said it best.
Well, actually Penn said it best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4zE0K22zH8


45 posted on 05/22/2018 10:22:57 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Commie is a dead Commie. Cast your Vote Accordingly.)
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To: rktman

“ban these assault rifles that are designed for one purpose only - to kill as many people as fast as possible.”


And muskets were designed for what, playing croquet?

To quote the great philosopher, Prof. Bugs Bunny: “What a maroon!”


46 posted on 05/22/2018 10:23:13 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Ancesthntr

I think he confused the word “people” with the word “Tyrants”.


47 posted on 05/22/2018 10:26:32 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Commie is a dead Commie. Cast your Vote Accordingly.)
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To: rktman

“”And the real #2A isn’t absolute. It allows Congress to wake up to reality and ban....”


Well, Chrissy, that’s where you are 100% wrong. First of all, the Constitution only gave the fed.gov certain powers...look at the 10th Amendment for confirmation of that.

Second, Congress can’t ban squat - last time I looked, you need to have the President sign a bill unless, that is, you can get 2/3 of each house to override a bill that makes criminals of tens of millions of people.

Third, the 2nd Amendment is CLEAR: “...the right to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.” [Emphasis added]. The words, “shall not be infringed” are left hanging there all by themselves. There are no words modifying that phrase, such as “except when, in the 21st Century, some bombastic politicians can frighten enough of the People to get a majority in Congress to violate the 2nd, 4th and 5th Amendments.” I checked, just to be sure, and those words are just not there. It stands at “shall not be infringed.”

By the way, Chrissy, my answer to your (and DiFi’s, and Upchuck’s, and all the rest of you Leftist assholes’) demand that I give up ANY of my firearms is simple:

“NO! Your turn.”

GFY, Chrissy!


48 posted on 05/22/2018 10:30:26 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Kickass Conservative

“1. The NFA is intended as a revenue-collecting measure and therefore within the authority of the Department of the Treasury.”


Since there have been NO tax stamps issued, by law, since May 20, 1986, I would make the argument that this part of the “Miller” decision is no longer applicable to the NFA. Thus, the NFA (at least as it relates to fully automatic firearms, is INVALID.

Waiting for someone to challenge this. Oh, and if the fed.gov goes back to the “Heller” standard of only “guns in common usage” are protected, bring up the fact that there would have been literally millions of full autos in public hands, were it not for the ‘34 NFA and the (illegal, IMHO) ban on new full autos that took effect in 1986. The Feds cannot logically say that something isn’t in common use when they did everything in their power to ban it for the last 84 years.

Leftism delenda est!!!!


49 posted on 05/22/2018 10:35:45 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: rktman

FYI all: In Politically Correct speak, violent feral youth, especially of the Amish variety, are said to be “vibrant”. The noun form describing them is VIBRANTS. Most cop-killers are Vibrants, as are most Rappers. Almost all Vibrants are DEMOCRATS. Coincidence?


50 posted on 05/22/2018 10:38:03 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

Or, for that matter, any of the other nine.


51 posted on 05/22/2018 10:40:21 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: JimRed

“The first part of the amendment recognizes the need for and desirability of a citizen militia. The second part recognizes the right of all to keep and bear arms, without hinderance (infringement). No part of the amendment limits the right to militia members.”


Exactly. The 2nd Amendment COULD read, “The Moon, being made of green cheese, the right of the People to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” - and it would offer the SAME EXACT PROTECTIONS that it does right now. The 2nd clause is NOT dependent upon the 1st; the 1st is a statement of goals/objectives, NOT operative law.

BTW, their next argument is that “the National Guard is the militia, so none of you gap-toothed, cousin-phucking, gun-toting hillbillies have any right to own firearms.” Well, good thing for the UNANIMOUS decision in Perpich v. Department of Defense, 496 U.S. 334 (1990), in which the Supremes ruled that the NG is part of the federal armed forces, and that governors had no power to determine where they are based. That means that the NG CANNOT be the militia.

Molon Labe!

Leftism delenda est!


52 posted on 05/22/2018 10:41:37 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Ancesthntr

It says the Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms, not the Right of the Militia.

Democrat Senators and Liberal Justices have reading comprehension issues.

Hillary was right, 40% of Democrats are Socialists. What she forgot to mention is the remaining 60% are Communists.


53 posted on 05/22/2018 11:07:18 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Commie is a dead Commie. Cast your Vote Accordingly.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

“Hillary was right, 40% of Democrats are Socialists. What she forgot to mention is the remaining 60% are Communists.”


...and the vast majority are as dumb as a bag of hammers.


54 posted on 05/22/2018 11:12:18 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: rktman
The real 2nd amendment:

The power of the sword, say the minority..., is in the hands of Congress. My friends and countrymen, it is not so, for The powers of the sword are in the hands of the yeomanry of America from sixteen to sixty. The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible. Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress has no power to disarm the militia. Their swords and every terrible implement of the soldier are the birthright of Americans.

Tench Coxe, in the Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.

"Every terrible implement of the soldier" is my birthright.

55 posted on 05/22/2018 11:21:16 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: rktman

Guess he figures he knows better than the Founders and the USSC.


56 posted on 05/22/2018 2:35:49 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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