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Texas school shooting leaves 10 people dead, most of them students
abc.net.au ^ | May 19, 2018 | AP/Reuters

Posted on 05/18/2018 9:07:35 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

A 17-year-old student armed with a shotgun and pistol has opened fire in a Texas high school, killing nine fellow students and a teacher, authorities say, in an attack similar to the massacre at a Florida high school in February.

Students said the gunman, identified by authorities as Dimitrios Pagourtzis, first opened fire in an art class at Santa Fe High School shortly before 8:00am on Friday.

Students and staff fled after seeing classmates injured and a fire alarm triggered a full evacuation.

Mr Pagourtzis, was denied bail after he was charged with capital murder and aggravated assault on a public servant.

The suspected shooter also had explosive devices that were found in the school and nearby, said Texas Governor Greg Abbott, who called the assault "one of the most heinous attacks that we've ever seen in the history of Texas schools".

(Excerpt) Read more at abc.net.au ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; dimitriospagourtzis; houston; ijustwokeup; intheshower; nra; santafehigh; secondamendment; texas; timelyupdate
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To: topher; Berlin_Freeper
The solution to this problem of school shootings is simple:

Your solutions are not as simple as you think.

Your metal detectors are useless without one or more human beings to monitor them and stop those that set off the metal detectors. Those people will need pay and benefits. If you use cops those cops are not doing other cop work.

Your gun sniffing dogs are expensive and require handlers that are also expensive. The dogs also have a rather short life span and an even shorter working life. You never know when a dog will lose its sense of smell or just get bored with the work and just stop doing the job.

Another problem with these ideas is that you have to funnel all of the students through the metal detector and past the dog. This is really going to slow down kids getting in to school. It is also a recipe for concentrating students in to a clogged area where a shooter could just spray bullets in to a crowd and kill lots of kids really quick.

If you had a large school you would have to have lots of metal detectors and since they break down from time to time you had better have a couple extra ones sitting around and a maintenance contract to get them fixed quick.

Nope I think it would be a much better solution to arm half your teachers and have a training program to make them proficient with their weapon.

21 posted on 05/18/2018 10:31:11 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

“I think it would be a much better solution to arm half your teachers and have a training program to make them proficient with their weapon.” But, but, but then we the people are not dependent upon the government! Oh wait ... good idea!


22 posted on 05/18/2018 10:46:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: VideoPaul

“The mainstream media is totally burying the fact that a horrible, awful, David Hogg hates ‘em ASSAULT RIFLE **wasn’t** used and had nothing to do with it?

Seems this story doesn’t fit the narrative...”


Of course it feeds the narrative - which is that all private ownership of guns should be banned. I’m looking forward to the Dems leading with this theme in November. As long as the GOP doesn’t cave, we’ll have a winning issue.


23 posted on 05/18/2018 11:07:37 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Journalism is about covering important stories. With a pillow, until they stop moving.)
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To: Paladin2

The shotgun had a legal barrel length, but the butt-stock was trimmed short like a pistol. Called ‘special purpose’ or tactical.


24 posted on 05/18/2018 11:11:17 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Liberals can kiss my bitter clingers!)
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To: pepsionice
Virtually every single one of the teenagers who gone this route...had prescription drugs.

I suspect what you say is true. Can you provide a source for this info?

25 posted on 05/18/2018 11:17:24 PM PDT by foxfield (The TEA Party is alive and well!)
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To: foxfield

https://www.cchrint.org/school-shooters/

I was reading this piece a couple of days ago. It caught my interest.

There’s another report out of Florida: http://www.cchrflorida.org/antidepressants-are-a-prescription-for-mass-shootings/

We are making a couple of bad assumptions here...in that murder/homicide are our only ‘flip-switches’. I think if you get into violent assault, and lesser crimes...other obvious things will be attached to the prescription drug trend.


26 posted on 05/18/2018 11:25:25 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice
Thank you.

From the second article:

...mind-altering drugs are being given to our future generation for no sensible or logical reason other than profits for pharmaceutical companies. The only result is dead bodies from mass shootings and that is truly senseless.

Could it be that Big Pharma has in interest in keeping the focus on gun control and not on their role in this problem? They seem to have a lot of influence on the media as evidenced by the large numbers of advertisements for pharmaceuticals. I suppose they make large contributions to politicians and lobbyist too.

27 posted on 05/18/2018 11:43:57 PM PDT by foxfield (The TEA Party is alive and well!)
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To: pepsionice
We are making a couple of bad assumptions here...

I am not sure i get what you mean, but it getting way past my bed time.

28 posted on 05/18/2018 11:47:08 PM PDT by foxfield (The TEA Party is alive and well!)
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To: Beagle8U

Thanks...


29 posted on 05/19/2018 12:01:25 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Now that I see you here,

Who pushed RosenWeasel past Trump and Rip van Sessions to be Grande DAG?

Some peeps want to know...


30 posted on 05/19/2018 12:07:24 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: miniTAX

I think execution is too lenient. We should bring back hard labor. Shorten his rotten life in half, and make him wish he was never born every rotten day of it.


31 posted on 05/19/2018 12:28:32 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: foxfield

Back in 2011, it was believed that Big Pharma was making around 14.6-billion dollars (the Guardian reports that). Figure seven years into the future, I would guess it’s closer to 20-billion at this point. It’s a golden cow.

The other number that gets thrown around is that between 10 and 15-percent of Americans are on some type of mood-enhancement, antidepressant, or chill-pill (all legal). The odds are....as you travel around on a typical weekend...you will bump into a minimum of twenty adults/kids on some legal prescription. You are facing a potential nutcase-shooter every single weekend.


32 posted on 05/19/2018 1:54:37 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Berlin_Freeper

EO SCHOOL VOUCHER

Trump should EO Executive Order that all the school kids get a School Voucher to go attend a different safe school of their choice.

And why does nobody mention the voucher option to school shootings??

Why are Conservatives so clueless about incremental options??


33 posted on 05/19/2018 2:09:40 AM PDT by TheNext
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I believe we not only need a quick a speedy “televised” execution as a deterant but if the parents irresponsibility in allowing their offspring to fester on their own thinking is a fad and they will grow out of it need to be brought to justice as well.


34 posted on 05/19/2018 3:09:44 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: coloradan

Model 52 S@W ? :)


35 posted on 05/19/2018 3:27:40 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: coloradan
I’ve read that the handgun was a 38 special, which isn’t a pistol.

It's early in my neck of the woods but...whut!?

36 posted on 05/19/2018 4:41:22 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Apparently I voted demoncrat for 40 years. They all wore 'R' jerseys! 'R'atpublicans!)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Amen

One immediate appeal, then public hanging

The leftist control of the legal system must be wrenched away.


37 posted on 05/19/2018 4:49:36 AM PDT by Thibodeaux (Long Live the Republic!)
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To: BlackbirdSST

Apparently some use the term “pistol” to mean “handgun that isn’t a revolver” but others don’t use the term that way. I had understood that revolvers weren’t pistols, although apparently that usage isn’t universal. Wikipedia claims both meanings:

“Some handgun experts and dictionaries make a technical distinction that views pistols as a subset of handguns; others use the terms interchangeably. Sometimes in usage, the term “pistol” refers to a handgun having one chamber integral with the barrel,[1][2] making pistols distinct from the other main type of handgun, the revolver, which has a revolving cylinder containing multiple chambers.[3][4] But UK/rest of Commonwealth usage does not always make this distinction, particularly when the terms are used by the military. For example, the official designation of the Webley Mk VI revolver was “Pistol, Revolver, Webley, No. 1 Mk VI”.[5] In contrast to Merriam-Webster[3][4] the Oxford English Dictionary (a descriptive dictionary) describes ‘pistol’ as a small firearm to be used in one hand[6] and the usage of “revolver” as being a type of handgun[7] and gives its original form as “revolving pistol”[7][8]”


38 posted on 05/19/2018 5:23:56 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: imardmd1

“Then why ore there no mass shootings in which the perpetrator(s) were not primed with psychoactive drugs?”

We have no idea which shooters may have been on psychoactive drugs and which were not.

“Why were there no such shootings before the release of psychotropic drugs to deal with abnormal behaviors?”

Mass murder did exist prior to the advent of psychoactive drugs.


39 posted on 05/19/2018 8:05:53 AM PDT by Blue House Sue
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