Au contraire...some of the most dynamic French conservatives are of a younger generation.
Posted on 05/13/2018 8:27:39 AM PDT by yoe
They also handed us Vietnam and other sundry disasters. At best we are even, at worst, France owes us and has no intention of paying.
The best of France died in the trenches of WW I. They folded up like a house of cards in WW II and Liberalism/Communism finished the work German bullets started. But, worry not, a new Napoleon will rise out of the mess. This time, maybe, a woman. Then it will be bad news to be Muslim. Think it was hard to be Jewish under the Nazis? It will be worse to have an Arab name in the new Europe. Watch and see—I estimate 2030 as flip time for France.
I don’t think Britain will ever leave the EU, at least not before another referendum and vote. What I think happened was the polls said “remain” was winning and I will bet that many young voters didn’t bother to vote thinking “remain” would win. The young want to stay in the EU, they feel it gives them status in the world.
Even if they leave it will be temporary.
Other than language we have very little in common with them. They are a left nation and we are a right of center nation. They find us stupid and backwards and mock our culture. How can a relationship that is not based on mutual respect survive?
There is no France.
Just like there is no UK, or Italy, or Spain, or Germany.
There is only the EU.
And no, it’s not an ally.
Not true...France left NATO in 1966 over differences with the United States and didn't rejoin again until Obama was President.
...but now there is growing anti-Americanism and they don’t mind showing it.
Wrong again...French President Macron just returned from a visit to Washington in which he was given a state dinner and addressed Congress.
Earlier this year French Nationalist Marion Le Pen was an invited speaker at the 2018 CPAC and her aunt Marine Le Pen was a supporter of the Trump in 2016.
While there may be policy differences between the United States and France, there is also a reservoir of good will...and that simply doesn't translate into 'growing anti-Americanism'.
The left on our soil mocks our culture too. Same with north of our border in Canada (still a British dominion), but their right wing is in sync with our culture.
I’m not going to let the Obamaites drive a wedge between the USA and UK, for my part. The Red Tories (equivalent to our RINOs) can’t be allowed to prevail.
My experience with French soldiers has been the same—plus they have great food no matter where they go. LOL
That said, to me, French soldiers always appeared a bit of an anomaly in their population. Maybe they’re just the remnant of a once-conservative people. The government is another story—wouldn’t trust them any more than the Syrians, but then again, I’d say that for many of our esteemed politicians as well.
Our Vietnam vets were treated to the same disrespect as the French for many decades. They paid for the sins of a country and leadership who abandoned them.
Anyone can belittle another, but Americans, in general have no idea of the sacrifices of other countries. The soil of the world is nourished by the blood of millions who died honorably, and no one should disrespect their sacrifice due to the mistakes of their commanders.
When were you there last? That reservoir of good will is a one street and pretty soon they will do their new masters’ bidding.
Oh and btw, I do think Trump stuck a finger in the Merkel’s and May’s faces with the State Dinner for Macron while Merkel was here and left without even being noticed. OOPs, no state dinner for the annoying Mrs. May either.
I think you are engaged in wishful thinking rather than reality.
“They have always been cheese eating surrender monkeys and always will be.”
I wouldn’t say that too loud in a Foreign Legion bar.
That wedge is already there whether you will allow it or not.
There are some individuals who are still pro-American but there numbers are small and aging. All things change and so will this.
It isn’t there. Bad leaders do not represent the country as a whole. Don’t fall for the Obama propaganda.
Au contraire...some of the most dynamic French conservatives are of a younger generation.
Obama? Unfortunately I have personal experience and that experience has led me to believe that we hold on to the “special relationship” nonsense while the British tossed it aside long ago.
We are not the same people who marched off to war with our European cousins and I assure you, neither are they.
I will believe it when I see it, until such time they mean nothing to me.
It must be remembered that the Ayatollah Khomeini conquered the Shah of Iran from his base of operations in France.
France is too weak to resist the invasion.
French companies, notably Lafarge, do work is some of the worst crap holes on the planet. Make no mistake, the French government trades it’s influence at the UN and generally for access to these markets by French firms.
Lafatge does have big contracts in the US to rehabilitate cement plants, but this is REALLY because they have a proprietary design that can significantly increase production within the same footprint, thereby avoiding crazy environmental regulations surrounding the expansion of cement plants here in the US.
I know a guy that makes big money working for Lafarge. I asked him once where the craziest place he’s ever been was and he said it was building a cement plant in South Sudan. They were asigned a small army unit to protect the project, but the unit suddenly called to the front. They all voted and decided to head south without any protection. He’s fairly certain they’d all be dead if they hadn’t as there were Sudanese Muslims freelancing in the South.
Regardless of your opinion of the second gulf war you’ll remember France was stridently against it. They has significant contracts with Sadam (building bunkers and tunnels) that they knew Iraq would default on if Sadam was deposed -which he was.
More recently, you’ll remember the scandal whereby Lafarge was paying taxes to ISIS for a cement plant. It was in effect a ransom.
When you make a deal with the devil, sooner or later he comes to collect.
The United States has no allies.
It’s a stupid concept which has led us astray over and over.
We have interests, which other nations may or may not share, in part, and in the defense of which other nations may prove useful, from time to time.
I wish I could live another Thirty-Years to watch Europe’s fall, It will be Magnificent. To be followed by Russia invading Europe to stamp out Islam...World War 111, here we come.
By voting to leave the EU, the people of the UK showed that they are still mostly the same kind that forged that special relationship.
Unless you’re going to be candid about your personal experience, I can’t make a judgment one way or the other on it, not that I want to; but don’t make it too personal as to be a grudge, is all I can advise one way or the other. Abandoning our ally to our traditional enemy will bode ill for the USA, and Trump in spite of May’s rhetoric is not doing that, FWICS.
I have personal experiences in the UK as well, mostly positive, and I used to live in Ireland, a country that teaches prejudice against the English in its schools.
Is USGovernment really an ally of USA citizens?
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