Posted on 05/13/2018 8:27:39 AM PDT by yoe
Is France Really an Ally of the United States? NO
Not necessarily. America used force for the War on Iraq, the War on Afghanistan. And besides, God advocated for the use of force. Otherwise, the Jews would NEVER have been emancipated from Egypt (God using the plagues was specifically done to force the Pharaoh to give up the Jews when he refused).
And don’t think being educated means that you are immune to force. Let’s not forget that Germany was most educated yet they were subject to force via the Nazis. Besides, getting rid of Enlightenment education is probably going to be far better off for Christendom.
The equivalence is that when Jimmy Carter was asked whether the Shah of Iran would last the year, he gave a very ambiguously worded answer and implied that would be up to the people, not even saying whether they should support him or not, and our cutting them loose to fend for themselves IS basically us saying the exact same thing to the Europeans, claiming they’re to determine their own destiny, and then leave them to die.
You are talking about “forcing” people to believe what you believe and I would ask how are you any different than Islam? In my opinion, God using force is far different than you or I using force.
After WW I Germany was beaten, humiliated and spitefully punished by France and Britain. They were left with nothing not even hope. I doubt that many had to be forced to the Nazis, the Nazis offered pride, patriotism and strength.
Jimmy Carter was a weak man and very a useful dupe. He reminds me very much of what leads Europe today.
No, not simply what I believe in, what God himself believes in, and believe me, if he didn’t want Christendom, if he didn’t want to be the sole ruler of the entire world, he would NOT have had us go and spread the Gospel, he would have done to us like Jimmy Carter did to the Shah of Iran. You think God wouldn’t approve of force? He advocated the use of force all the time in the old testament, and even in the new testament, there was Jesus’s throwing out of the money-changers, which last I checked IS force. In fact, even by our interacting with each other, we’re forcing our views on to each other, there IS no way to not use force on others. That’s what the Enlightenment got wrong.
And the Germans WERE forced, ultimately, as when they started smelling that things weren’t right, it was far too late (and there have been PLENTY of Christian groups who spoke out against the Nazis and ended up dead because of it, so don’t try to claim that none spoke out against it or the German people weren’t forced into compliance).
Well I think we are going to have to agree to disagree. I don’t see Europe as the center of Christendom and it hasn’t been for hundreds of years. God did not leave them they left God. Church after church is being closed while more and more mosques are being built.
If you find them worth saving then you must do your duty as you see fit. For me, I am more concerned with what happens here and we enough problems that we shouldn’t even think of taking on someone else’s.
Well, here’s the problem, if I’m going to be more concerned with what happens here, I’d drop a nuke on Europe, and everywhere else outside America, to literally ensure America’s the only important thing in the world, and even you would have to agree that’s a horrible idea. In order to restore Christendom, we have to fix Europe. And there’s a reason Jesus had Christendom’s capital established in Rome, NOT in Jerusalem or anywhere else in the world.
France is just another example of what happens to a country when they turn away from the “Only true God and Jesus Christ whom He has sent.”
Which is EXACTLY why France is one of the first targets to restoring Christendom, since it was originally the Oldest Sister of Rome, one of the most religious countries in Europe until Enlightenment thought and especially the French Revolution wrecked everything.
No one is asking you to do something so drastic. The center of my religion is not in Rome so I guess we would have different priorities.
If Europe is broken then it is up to Europeans to fix it. I doubt if they will.
The center of my religion is heaven, but it doesn’t matter much if the earthly seat of power that Jesus himself established ends up destroyed. He established a church on Earth for a REASON.
Cosidering that ten years after they helped us win our Revolution we refused to pay the debts we owed to them and instead built a Navy to take their ships... they’re alright.
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