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Is France Really an Ally of the United States?
The Gatestone Institute ^ | May 13, 2018 | Guy Millière

Posted on 05/13/2018 8:27:39 AM PDT by yoe

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To: The Deplorable Miss Lemon

Amen. Well said.

I have observed that the NHS is almost like a “ god” to them. To criticize the NHS in any way is considered a sacrilege. Sick and disturbing, especially in light of the Alfie Evans murder. Yes, the NHS murdered that poor baby.

I completely agree with your assessment. If not having universal healthcare is cruel and backward, then I’m proud to be cruel and backward.


101 posted on 05/13/2018 10:22:36 PM PDT by CrimsonTidegirl (Hello darkness my old friend. I've come to talk with you again.)
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To: outofsalt

Why do you guys say “Europe” ignoring the fact that it is made up of different nations? Poland, hungary etc. don’t have Izlamization and we are against it. Would you say “NordeAmerica” to condemn all countries from Canada to Panama as one and the same?


102 posted on 05/13/2018 11:13:58 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos

See post 90 in response to 60


103 posted on 05/14/2018 7:08:32 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: Mark17

My ethnicity is English, Irish and German, but like most of us we are American first and foremost. I was in love with Britain until I actually visited, and like you I came away with a very negative impression. Subsequent visits just increased my dislike and now I hold most of Western Europe in contempt.


104 posted on 05/14/2018 8:27:51 AM PDT by The Deplorable Miss Lemon (If illegals are here to do the jobs Americans won't do why are so many illegals on welfare?)
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To: CrimsonTidegirl

I may be too suspicious, but I can’t help but feel that the celebration of the NHS during their Olympic opening ceremony was a poke in our eye as our government was trying to shove Obamacare on us and we were resisting.

I was in Britain a week before the Olympics and was excoriated for not supporting Obamacare.

The stories of Charlie Gard and Alfie Evans sickened me, but no more than some of the comments from the British after their deaths about how much better off they were dead. They are truly brainwashed and believe that their healthcare services are the best in the world when they are third world at best.


105 posted on 05/14/2018 8:36:36 AM PDT by The Deplorable Miss Lemon (If illegals are here to do the jobs Americans won't do why are so many illegals on welfare?)
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To: The Deplorable Miss Lemon

I only visited Italy, specifically Rome, and it was a fairly good place. Not much complaints or bashing of Americans, actually, barely any comment on America at all.

And quite frankly, I’m a bit too aware of the European bashing (My mom knew someone from her parish who had Greeks shun her for her American citizenship, and this was before the Greek financial meltdown). Unfortunately, I also know enough about history to realize that if we ditch them, it WILL turn out worse. Do I have to remind you of what happened to Vietnam after the Democrats sabotaged any attempts at providing aid to the South? I don’t want a repeat of that.


106 posted on 05/14/2018 8:39:07 AM PDT by otness_e
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To: otness_e

I might as well add that the person heading one of the tours in Italy, a Brit, was clearly anti-EU and pretty much a Brexit supporter before there was such a thing. This was back in 2009.


107 posted on 05/14/2018 9:00:38 AM PDT by otness_e
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To: otness_e

I have visited Rome, Florence, Venice, and I agree most Italians who I spoke with were friendly to indifferent, which was fine with me that’s all I expect.

I honestly don’t care what happens to Europe. They have created their own mess let them sort it out themselves.


108 posted on 05/14/2018 9:01:18 AM PDT by The Deplorable Miss Lemon (If illegals are here to do the jobs Americans won't do why are so many illegals on welfare?)
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To: The Deplorable Miss Lemon

Let me ask you something: Would you say that you don’t care about Europe’s future if, after Europe falls, Christianity is rendered completely extinct, and God ends up putting your feet to the fire and screaming at you for your failure because you failed to ensure his Christian Empire survived? I don’t know about you, but I intend to make SURE Christianity survives and that God had complete power over the world, and if that means defending Europe in spite of its populace bashing America, so be it.


109 posted on 05/14/2018 9:36:43 AM PDT by otness_e
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To: The Deplorable Miss Lemon
now I hold most of Western Europe in contempt.

You are not alone.

110 posted on 05/14/2018 9:43:48 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: otness_e

My friend, I know what you are saying, but I would ask you is Europe still Christian? I believe they are not. One of the things that the British find most repulsive about Americans is that the British believe we are all caricatures of the Bible thumping televangelist breathing hell fire to all who don’t believe what we believe.

We can’t save them from themselves that has to come from them. They have to find their own light we can’t provide it for them.


111 posted on 05/14/2018 10:00:30 AM PDT by The Deplorable Miss Lemon (If illegals are here to do the jobs Americans won't do why are so many illegals on welfare?)
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To: Mark17

WE are not alone, my FRiend.


112 posted on 05/14/2018 10:01:37 AM PDT by The Deplorable Miss Lemon (If illegals are here to do the jobs Americans won't do why are so many illegals on welfare?)
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To: The Deplorable Miss Lemon

Unfortunately, I HAVE to do so, save Europe by force if I must, because my view of God is... well, let’s just say I view God as being less like a loving father and more like how Red Skull acted whenever he is experiencing failures from HYDRA in the Captain America movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY-R1YYnxfg


113 posted on 05/14/2018 10:07:00 AM PDT by otness_e
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To: otness_e

Then I will wish you the very best of luck and may God be with you and Europe.


114 posted on 05/14/2018 10:12:36 AM PDT by The Deplorable Miss Lemon (If illegals are here to do the jobs Americans won't do why are so many illegals on welfare?)
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To: The Deplorable Miss Lemon
WE are not alone, my FRiend.

It’s strange, but I have more respect for the former Warsaw Pact countries of Eastern Europe, than for Western Europe.

115 posted on 05/14/2018 10:28:25 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17

Eastern Europeans spent a long time under the thumb of the Soviet Union. They value freedom because they had to fight for it.

We, the US, have spoiled western Europe and made them dependent. They are behaving very much like spoiled brats biting the hands that have fed them for so many decades.

I have always thought that much of the hatred of the US comes as a result of them becoming dependent and resenting us.


116 posted on 05/14/2018 10:49:05 AM PDT by The Deplorable Miss Lemon (If illegals are here to do the jobs Americans won't do why are so many illegals on welfare?)
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To: DesertRhino

France sucks, sure.

But a son of France gave me the template of the future of Europe, 50 years before it happened.

Of course I reference Camp of the Saints.

Everyone should read it. It opened my eyes. My public library actually pulled, and I assume destroyed, that book later on.


117 posted on 05/14/2018 12:32:19 PM PDT by T-Bone Texan
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To: The Deplorable Miss Lemon
“Is France Really an Ally of the United States?” Of course not. Is Britain? Is Germany? No, not them either.

So the vital question remains... if they get involved in a major conflict, do we intervene?

118 posted on 05/14/2018 12:58:06 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: gandalftb
France chose to colonize Muslim areas of Africa. Then it admitted those Muslim Africans into France to provide cheap labor. Those Muslim Africans are far more fertile than the native French. Muslim African families have 2.6 children per household. The native french have 1.6 children per household. Those children grow up, make money, go to school and many choose to preserve and promote their culture over the native French. The native French were naive and too arrogant to understand the changes they were making to their own culture.

We aren't much different with our own massive immigration issue.

119 posted on 05/14/2018 1:05:33 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: yoe

France will soon be a nuclear threat to the rest of Europe.


120 posted on 05/14/2018 1:07:14 PM PDT by anton
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