Skip to comments.Malaysian Airlines MH370: Huge 50 foot waves cripple salvage op -- plane may never be found
Posted on 04/29/2018 1:08:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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The lack of coverage of the remote reaches of the Indian/Southern Ocean reflects a conservation of radar and satellite equipment, computer, and human resources.
It costs time and money to monitor any particular patch of sky and the locations where you expect the most activity get the most attention (and resources).
Given the considerable performance capabilities required to operate in or simply transit those vast expanses of unbroken ocean, very few aircraft types can even enter the area. Imagine what the cost of developing, emplacing, maintaining and actively monitoring a full coverage radar or satellite surveillance system 24/7/365 would be.
Spending resources to stare intently at a big space where nothing is usually happening probably seemed like a good place to begin eliminating unnecessary expense.
Then MH370 happened.
Now you have dead people from multiple countries and energized politicians involved. The previous surveillance system cost/benefit analyses (i.e., very little return for a whole lot of expense), while still valid, are now irrelevant and “insensitive” politically.
Another post has already noted that the aircraft was probably very badly fragmented when it hit the ocean surface. Nothing is intact. Deep ocean organisms are well on their way to completely consuming what bits of the passengers survived the impact. The flight data and voice recorder batteries are long dead, so data might not be recoverable even if they are eventually found. In short, beyond the possibility of eventually declaring a field of shredded aluminum and steel nearly 4 miles deep in the ocean to be the aircraft, this is a story that already has no possible happy ending.
The question is how much additional money/effort/risk of loss of life and property will be required before those in charge admit that the book on the incident must be closed and all the lives that continue to be bound up in this tragedy are released so they can recover as best as they can`
Was it ever confirmed the piece of flap or rudder found on the east-African coast was from MH370?
I get how large it is. I also get that satellites record data (huge volumes of data) that do not involve a person looking at a screen like they are watching television.
They do not “turn off” satellites that watch the world when they are over “nothing interesting” and with the server farms the NSA has I simply wondered if there was not relevant data that may have been recorded somehow or somewhere. Simple thought and yes I realize that satellites “do not see everything” and are most often focused in on a specific area. I accept the “vast expanse” theory and said the same thing at the time - something to the effect of “without a military radar or satellite observing something we may never find it because it is so big.” Just never had an answer that seemed any more informed than my own speculation. Sometimes FR provides a surprising answer.
I am sure they tried...... however, with satellite imagery of my own home via google where I can see my vehicles on the property we can only guess how good (and comprehensive) our latest imagery satellites are.
Thanks. It won't be found until they start looking where the plane is.
The would make as much sense as the other "theories" they've encountered on their wild goose chase, which is also what the search for the plane has been. Perhaps the Templar time machine retrieved the lost plane from the secret treasure house of the Aztecs after it moved that treasure back to Soilomon's Temple, and gave Francis Bacon's Shakespeare manuscripts to the producers of "National Treasure 3".
Lol. You got the sarcasm.
That said, it's also possible that this is impractical near the poles where lines of longitude compress.
Thanks. I know they talked about that giving them clues to where the plane went down due to the ocean currents, but the Indian Ocean is huge, and in some places, very deep.
The pilot may have had a simulator with a well-practiced flight plan on it, but with everything else he apparently did to prepare and execute this, I wonder whether he purposely left a phony clue so that the plane would never be found, which seemed to be his intention.
I could easily understand if it's was more than just "impractical" but actually damn difficult in the far north as well as the area of the Indian Ocean between Australia and southern Africa.
That was always the question as to why the Chicoms shot down a Cathay-Pacific flight from Hong Kong to Singapore in the summer of 1954. The aircraft was far out over international waters east oo Hainan. USN carrier jets shot down at least 2 CCF fighters that intercepted them as the USN was searching for survivors.
“plane may never be found”
100% correct, if they keep looking in the water.
[guy in the I’m with stupid tee] “Look, a dead bird.”
[other guy looks up] “Where?”
One nice outcome of the search has been the identifying of long-lost wooden vessels that went down doing the “Roaring Forties” run to Australia/NZ etc.
I have to admit that I enjoy that Curse of Oak Island show, which (along with "Ancient Aliens") is the ultimate expression of the open-ended mystery genre. Some kids 200 years ago noticed an old old tree branch looked like it used to have a block and tackle attached to it, and there was a slight concavity in the ground. Since that time, despite the march of technology, no one has been able to thwart the methods used to hide an uniidentified and quite purported treasure using block and tackle and an old oak tree.
On the other hand, he was flying in a different direction to the simulator route, so maybe he figured they would recover those, and then it is a brilliant false clue when it appears you were trying to hide it.
If his goal was to make sure the plane was never be found, and baffle the hell out of everyone, he certainly did a thorough job of it.
I liked the Geologist’s approach. Bulldoze the crap out of it until you find something. However, that approach means you are only treasure hunting. At least the brothers are giving the appearance of archeological interest.
It is more likely that he was trying different directions (because there isn’t any info about that) than he’d ever flown before, or wanted to see what happened outside normal flight lanes. There’s literally no reason to believe he was setting up a suicide run. It will be nice if the black box is ever found though. To do that, they’ll have to look in the South China Sea, which is where the Chinese shot down the plane.
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